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From: Luca Ceresoli <luca@lucaceresoli.net>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
Cc: "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, "Jacopo Mondi" <jacopo@jmondi.org>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kieran Bingham" <kieran@ksquared.org.uk>,
	"Vladimir Zapolskiy" <vz@mleia.com>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux I2C" <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund@ragnatech.se>,
	linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] i2c: allow DT nodes without 'compatible'
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 00:11:10 +0100
Message-ID: <e43eaaf1-a294-902f-9a52-ebf8b29acab1@lucaceresoli.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWaPfc050dZiRr+gAFzsdjSo9Vo70ztWgrMGPJxLUqupw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 21/02/20 10:45, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Wolfram,
> 
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:26 PM Wolfram Sang
> <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com> wrote:
>> Sometimes, we have unknown devices in a system and still want to block
>> their address. For that, we allow DT nodes with only a 'reg' property.
>> These devices will be bound to the "dummy" driver but with the name
>> "reserved". That way, we can distinguish them and even hand them over to
>> the "dummy" driver later when they are really requested using
>> i2c_new_ancillary_device().
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>

Cc:ing Alexandre who raised the need for a described-but-disabled I2C node.

> Thanks for your patch!
> 
> Reviewed-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>
> but one question below.
> 
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/i2c/i2c-ocores.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/i2c/i2c-ocores.txt
>> @@ -50,7 +50,6 @@ Examples:
>>                 reg-io-width = <1>;     /* 8 bit read/write */
>>
>>                 dummy@60 {
>> -                       compatible = "dummy";
>>                         reg = <0x60>;
>>                 };
>>         };
> 
> There's a second instance to remove 18 lines below.
> 
>> --- a/drivers/i2c/i2c-core-of.c
>> +++ b/drivers/i2c/i2c-core-of.c
>> @@ -27,17 +27,15 @@ int of_i2c_get_board_info(struct device *dev, struct device_node *node,
>>
>>         memset(info, 0, sizeof(*info));
>>
>> -       if (of_modalias_node(node, info->type, sizeof(info->type)) < 0) {
>> -               dev_err(dev, "of_i2c: modalias failure on %pOF\n", node);
>> -               return -EINVAL;
>> -       }
>> -
>>         ret = of_property_read_u32(node, "reg", &addr);
>>         if (ret) {
>>                 dev_err(dev, "of_i2c: invalid reg on %pOF\n", node);
>>                 return ret;
>>         }
>>
>> +       if (of_modalias_node(node, info->type, sizeof(info->type)) < 0)
>> +               strlcpy(info->type, I2C_RESERVED_DRV_NAME, sizeof(I2C_RESERVED_DRV_NAME));
> 
> Could this cause a regression, e.g. if people already have such dummy
> nodes in their DTS, and use sysfs new_device from userspace to
> instantiate the device later?

Such a DTS would be illegal because "compatible" has been a required
property so far. Thus one could leave such people out in the cold
because they went on an unsupported path. Not super nice anyway.

However I'd like to view the issue from the DT point of view. DT
describes the hardware, and it is possible (and even desirable) that the
firmware provides the DTB independently from the OS, and the kernel
consumes it. It this scenario, firmware could and should describe all
I2C slaves with proper "compatible" property, and there is no way to
remove it, in a clean way at least.

But the kernel currently ignores nodes that have no matching driver,
right? So in this case the kernel knows that that address is used, but
ignores this information and considers the address as available.
Seen in this perspective, we should have a "compatible" for all nodes:
it is just describing the hardware and could be out of the kernel
control. But instead of discarding all nodes without a matching driver,
the i2c-core-of code should mark them as "reserved".

Does it sound correct?

Clearly this does not fit the case reported by Alexandre: a device
having a driver which is known to be badly buggy, so we don't want to
instantiate it. But again, this should not affect DT as it is not
describing the HW, but only an implementation detail. Probably disabling
or blacklisting the driver would be a better option there?

My apologies to Wolfram, I appreciate a lot the effort you are doing,
but before reviewing this patch I have never realized what I tried to
explain above.

-- 
Luca

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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-20 17:23 [RFC PATCH 0/7] i2c: of: reserve unknown and ancillary addresses Wolfram Sang
2020-02-20 17:23 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] i2c: add sanity check for parameter of i2c_verify_client() Wolfram Sang
2020-02-21  9:36   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-20 17:23 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] i2c: use DEFINE for the dummy driver name Wolfram Sang
2020-02-21  9:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-20 17:23 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] i2c: allow DT nodes without 'compatible' Wolfram Sang
2020-02-21  9:45   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-21  9:48     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-23 23:11     ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2020-03-12 11:19       ` Wolfram Sang
2020-03-12 11:44         ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-04-10 13:47         ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-02-26 16:30   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-20 17:24 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] i2c: of: remove superfluous parameter from exported function Wolfram Sang
2020-02-21  9:50   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-24  8:12   ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-02-20 17:24 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] i2c: of: error message unification Wolfram Sang
2020-02-21  9:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-20 17:24 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] i2c: of: mark a whole array of regs as reserved Wolfram Sang
2020-02-21 10:09   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-03-12 11:21     ` Wolfram Sang
2020-03-18 14:33     ` Wolfram Sang
2020-02-28 12:11   ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-02-20 17:24 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] i2c: core: hand over reserved devices when requesting ancillary addresses Wolfram Sang
2020-02-21 10:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-28 12:11     ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-03-12 11:30       ` Wolfram Sang
2020-03-12 11:21     ` Wolfram Sang
2020-03-13 12:42     ` Wolfram Sang
2020-02-21 10:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] i2c: of: reserve unknown and " Geert Uytterhoeven

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