From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA634C433E0 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B119920738 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:36:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1593347772; bh=ogPaP2fhjsQkguPyUOMg24PXA8hfGI0+6RhV6F8c8xM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:List-ID:From; b=QQrZO4n9wj2GBecZpgjt9/SST5+f5Go29Cq2RsbwDs96ALN2p8vou6eeIPRkauhiU 8FEFbB2vqODw5Y5YlCyHkQzM3Oce9lYmMu0C/iq/5J3ctljMGcVJDtvi0l4MJCS+eF +F+3J0z7vNjwV+kBlBUc84SbRp2p33QL+yuxvYBw= Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726317AbgF1MgL (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Jun 2020 08:36:11 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:52526 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726316AbgF1MgL (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Jun 2020 08:36:11 -0400 Received: from archlinux (cpc149474-cmbg20-2-0-cust94.5-4.cable.virginm.net [82.4.196.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 421E820738 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:36:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1593347770; bh=ogPaP2fhjsQkguPyUOMg24PXA8hfGI0+6RhV6F8c8xM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=jGj3CyCYoJTGi9YjPLUHiKmw6dvQd1n5qMTDt8npv4+GhVxvw3djrT13us7Yb+Rdb Jwh+ZQzTAhDJEHPs23azki9OjlpQuabMozcd1+EQEjUyleDI/wJ0ds6Gh6RjvunDRT NJtuIthiYIdElQ+7nTJGG9zRqalN8M/4GMFP3NEQ= Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 13:36:07 +0100 From: Jonathan Cameron To: linux-iio@vger.kernel.org Subject: Interest in a virtual IIO microconf? Message-ID: <20200628133607.61d31ed1@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-iio-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-iio@vger.kernel.org Hi All Summary: Is there enough IIO developer interest in spending a few hours talking about IIO topics? Note we may go deep in places but other topics need a wide range of people and experience to be useful! So, I have thought about trying to organize a workshop / microconf at one of the big Linux conferences in the past. However, I've not done anything about it because : 1. Active IIO developers are geographically spread out, so chances are we would only get a small subset of people. Whilst that's fine for having a few beers/coffee and a chat, it is not so good on an inclusive / useful basis for making any progress. Whilst the Linux foundation and others do their best to encourage a wide range of people to attend these events, the reality is that going to a conference is expensive in money and/or time. 2. Whilst I have personally been going to more conferences in recent times than I did a few years back, they aren't always 'the right ones' for this sort of meeting. 3. It wasn't obvious that we would actually have a enough to talk about. This is more of an issue if it involved people jumping on planes with all the issues that brings. 4. I've mulled trying something virtual in the past but was unconvinced we could do it in fashion that would make it more productive than email exchanges. Anyhow, a huge amount has changed this year. I'm sure everyone is getting more used to doing things online and it's clear that useful meetings of this type can occur without getting everyone sat around a table. Clearly lots of open questions around this: * What would we talk about? * Are enough people interested? * When? Can we actually find a timezone or date that works for enough people? Particularly true given mixture of people who do IIO for their day jobs and those who do it out of work time! Note that, for a first such event I'd suggest we are looking at around 3 hours. * Platform: We could try and associate with an existing event, but as it will be small we probably don't need the heavy weight logistics of something like Plumbers (side note - their online conferencing setup is very impressive). My personal preference is Zoom as it seems more reliable than alternatives (even though it's closed source etc... :( Video optional! I have a few thoughts on topics (in no particular order) 1. Generic process stuff. Should we change how the IIO subsystem is maintained? I know I have a few things I'd like to briefly discuss. Note this is standard feature in pretty much every open source project microconf! 2. Major out of tree patches. - What is out there? Perhaps there is room to collaborate around some of this. - Do we have a path to upstream them? 3. Topics on the horizon? Where should we go? - One topic in here is potentially around virtualization on embedded platforms and how IIO might fit within that. 4. Mentorship / support of new developers. - Would love to get some inputs on this from both people who do a lot of this and from those who have recently been on the 'newbie' side of things! 5. Usecases. I'd personally love to hear a bit about what people are actually doing with all these devices! I'd also be interested in pain points etc. 6. Userspace stacks. More discussion around pain points etc than an overview of what there is. 7. Testing / emulation? What do people have in place, and what can we do to improve it? 8+ What do other people want to talk about? Some of these topics pretty much require particular people, so we may not be able to do them usefully this time. Note the above list may well be too many topics already so chances are we won't get through everything people want to talk about. Anyhow, thoughts? We can leave the "when" question until we have an idea of whether it makes sense to do this at all. Jonathan p.s. As ever ideally keep discussion on list but if anyone wants to raise anything privately feel free to email me directly.