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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Denis Semakin <denis.semakin@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 14/16] ima: Use mac_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 10:38:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a914d80-db7c-cdd9-358a-97138ec6d750@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211211150246.GA24925@mail.hallyn.com>


On 12/11/21 10:02, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> IMO yes it is unsafe, however I concede that I am not sufficiently familiar
> with the policy language.  At least Stefan and Mimi (IIUC) want the host
> policy language to be able to specify cases where an IMA ns can be
> configured.  What's not clear to me is what sorts of triggers the host
> IMA policy could specify that would safely identify a IMA ns generation
> trigger.
>
> Stefan, would you mind showing what such a policy statement would look like?
> Does it amount to "/usr/bin/runc may create an IMA ns which escapes current
> policy" ?  Or is it by UID, or any file which has a certain xattr on it?

If this policy here is active on the host then file executions 
(BPRM_CHECK) of uid=0 should be measured and audited on the host in any 
IMA namespace that uid=0 may create. We achieve this with hierarchical 
processing (v6: 10/17).

measure func=BPRM_CHECK mask=MAY_EXEC uid=0

audit func=BPRM_CHECK mask=MAY_EXEC uid=0

    Stefan


>
> -serge
>
> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 08:09:20AM +0000, Denis Semakin wrote:
>> Following that thoughts...
>> Will it be so incorrectly to unbound IMA-ns from USER-ns?
>> I realize that it could lead a lot of problems but it is still unclear will current IMA-ns will be useful for Kuber...
>> How userland supposed to use current IMA-ns implementation?
>>
>> Br,
>> Denis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Denis Semakin
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:22 AM
>> To: 'Stefan Berger' <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>; linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
>> Cc: zohar@linux.ibm.com; serge@hallyn.com; christian.brauner@ubuntu.com; containers@lists.linux.dev; dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com; ebiederm@xmission.com; Krzysztof Struczynski <krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com>; Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>; mpeters@redhat.com; lhinds@redhat.com; lsturman@redhat.com; puiterwi@redhat.com; jejb@linux.ibm.com; jamjoom@us.ibm.com; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; paul@paul-moore.com; rgb@redhat.com; linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org; jmorris@namei.org
>> Subject: RE: [PATCH v5 14/16] ima: Use mac_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability
>>
>> Hi.
>> My question won't be about capabilities. I'm wondering how IMA-ns which is associated with USER-ns and is created during USER-ns creation would be used by some namespaces orchestration systems, e.g. Kubernetes?.. It seems that it can be run without any user namespaces...
>> Their community just discuss this opportunity to support User namespaces. (see https://github.com/kubernetes/enhancements/pull/2101)
>> Looks like currently IMA-ns will not be applicable for Kubernetes.
>>
>> Br,
>> Denis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stefan Berger [mailto:stefanb@linux.ibm.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 1:18 AM
>> To: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
>> Cc: zohar@linux.ibm.com; serge@hallyn.com; christian.brauner@ubuntu.com; containers@lists.linux.dev; dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com; ebiederm@xmission.com; Krzysztof Struczynski <krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com>; Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>; mpeters@redhat.com; lhinds@redhat.com; lsturman@redhat.com; puiterwi@redhat.com; jejb@linux.ibm.com; jamjoom@us.ibm.com; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; paul@paul-moore.com; rgb@redhat.com; linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org; jmorris@namei.org; Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>; Denis Semakin <denis.semakin@huawei.com>
>> Subject: [PATCH v5 14/16] ima: Use mac_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability
>>
>> Use mac_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability to allow read/write IMA policy without CAP_SYS_ADMIN but with CAP_MAC_ADMIN.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Denis Semakin <denis.semakin@huawei.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
>> ---
>>   include/linux/capability.h      | 6 ++++++
>>   security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c | 2 +-
>>   2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/capability.h b/include/linux/capability.h index 65efb74c3585..991579178f32 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/capability.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/capability.h
>> @@ -270,6 +270,12 @@ static inline bool checkpoint_restore_ns_capable(struct user_namespace *ns)
>>   		ns_capable(ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN);
>>   }
>>   
>> +static inline bool mac_admin_ns_capable(struct user_namespace *ns) {
>> +	return ns_capable(ns, CAP_MAC_ADMIN) ||
>> +		ns_capable(ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN);
>> +}
>> +
>>   /* audit system wants to get cap info from files as well */  int get_vfs_caps_from_disk(struct user_namespace *mnt_userns,
>>   			   const struct dentry *dentry,
>> diff --git a/security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c b/security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c index 0e582ceecc7f..a749a3e79304 100644
>> --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c
>> +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c
>> @@ -394,7 +394,7 @@ static int ima_open_policy(struct inode *inode, struct file *filp)  #else
>>   		if ((filp->f_flags & O_ACCMODE) != O_RDONLY)
>>   			return -EACCES;
>> -		if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
>> +		if (!mac_admin_ns_capable(ns->user_ns))
>>   			return -EPERM;
>>   		return seq_open(filp, &ima_policy_seqops);  #endif
>> --
>> 2.31.1

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-11 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-08 22:18 [PATCH v5 00/16] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 01/16] ima: Add IMA namespace support Stefan Berger
2021-12-09  4:40   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-09 10:56   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-09 13:19   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-10 16:00   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 02/16] ima: Define ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 03/16] ima: Namespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 04/16] ima: Move delayed work queue and variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 13:11   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 15:09     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 05/16] ima: Move IMA's keys queue related " Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 06/16] ima: Move policy " Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 07/16] ima: Move ima_htable " Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 16:26   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 08/16] ima: Move measurement list related variables " Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 09/16] ima: Only accept AUDIT rules for IMA non-init_ima_ns namespaces for now Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 10/16] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 11/16] securityfs: Only use simple_pin_fs/simple_release_fs for init_user_ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 12/16] securityfs: Extend securityfs with namespacing support Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 13/16] ima: Move some IMA policy and filesystem related variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 19:11   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 20:42     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10  0:57     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 11:32       ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-10 13:57         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 14:21           ` James Bottomley
2021-12-11  9:50           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-11 10:45             ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-13 15:33             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-13 15:50               ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-13 16:03                 ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-13 16:25                 ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-13 16:37                   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-13 16:40                 ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-10 20:08         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-11  8:46           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 14/16] ima: Use mac_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability Stefan Berger
2021-12-09  7:22   ` Denis Semakin
2021-12-09 13:23     ` James Bottomley
2021-12-09  8:09   ` Denis Semakin
2021-12-11 15:02     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-12-11 15:38       ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2021-12-11 16:00         ` James Bottomley
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 15/16] ima: Move dentries into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 14:34   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 14:37     ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 14:41       ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 15:00         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 15:47           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 15:30       ` James Bottomley
2021-12-09 19:38         ` James Bottomley
2021-12-09 20:13           ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 11:49           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-10 12:09             ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-10 12:40               ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 13:02                 ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-10 14:17                   ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 14:26                     ` James Bottomley
2021-12-10 15:26                       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-10 15:32                         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 15:48                           ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-10 16:40                             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 12:40               ` James Bottomley
2021-12-10 12:54                 ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-12 14:13             ` James Bottomley
2021-12-13 11:25               ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 16/16] ima: Setup securityfs for IMA namespace Stefan Berger

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