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From: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>
To: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>, <initramfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	<silviu.vlasceanu@huawei.com>, <dmitry.kasatkin@huawei.com>,
	<takondra@cisco.com>, <kamensky@cisco.com>, <arnd@arndb.de>,
	<rob@landley.net>, <james.w.mcmechan@gmail.com>,
	<niveditas98@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] initramfs: introduce do_readxattrs()
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 11:39:46 +0200
Message-ID: <7bdca169-7a01-8c55-40e4-a832e876a0e5@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190517221731.GA11358@rani.riverdale.lan>

On 5/18/2019 12:17 AM, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 02:47:31PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 5/17/19 2:02 PM, Arvind Sankar wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 01:18:11PM -0700, hpa@zytor.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok... I just realized this does not work for a modular initramfs, composed at load time from multiple files, which is a very real problem. Should be easy enough to deal with: instead of one large file, use one companion file per source file, perhaps something like filename..xattrs (suggesting double dots to make it less likely to conflict with a "real" file.) No leading dot, as it makes it more likely that archivers will sort them before the file proper.
>>> This version of the patch was changed from the previous one exactly to deal with this case --
>>> it allows for the bootloader to load multiple initramfs archives, each
>>> with its own .xattr-list file, and to have that work properly.
>>> Could you elaborate on the issue that you see?
>>>
>>
>> Well, for one thing, how do you define "cpio archive", each with its own
>> .xattr-list file? Second, that would seem to depend on the ordering, no,
>> in which case you depend critically on .xattr-list file following the
>> files, which most archivers won't do.
>>
>> Either way it seems cleaner to have this per file; especially if/as it
>> can be done without actually mucking up the format.
>>
>> I need to run, but I'll post a more detailed explanation of what I did
>> in a little bit.
>>
>> 	-hpa
>>
> Not sure what you mean by how do I define it? Each cpio archive will
> contain its own .xattr-list file with signatures for the files within
> it, that was the idea.
> 
> You need to review the code more closely I think -- it does not depend
> on the .xattr-list file following the files to which it applies.
> 
> The code first extracts .xattr-list as though it was a regular file. If
> a later dupe shows up (presumably from a second archive, although the
> patch will actually allow a second one in the same archive), it will
> then process the existing .xattr-list file and apply the attributes
> listed within it. It then will proceed to read the second one and
> overwrite the first one with it (this is the normal behaviour in the
> kernel cpio parser). At the end once all the archives have been
> extracted, if there is an .xattr-list file in the rootfs it will be
> parsed (it would've been the last one encountered, which hasn't been
> parsed yet, just extracted).
> 
> Regarding the idea to use the high 16 bits of the mode field in
> the header that's another possibility. It would just require additional
> support in the program that actually creates the archive though, which
> the current patch doesn't.

Yes, for adding signatures for a subset of files, no changes to the ram
disk generator are necessary. Everything is done by a custom module. To
support a generic use case, it would be necessary to modify the
generator to execute getfattr and the awk script after files have been
placed in the temporary directory.

If I understood the new proposal correctly, it would be task for cpio to
read file metadata after the content and create a new record for each
file with mode 0x18000, type of metadata encoded in the file name and
metadata as file content. I don't know how easy it would be to modify
cpio. Probably the amount of changes would be reasonable.

The kernel will behave in a similar way. It will call do_readxattrs() in
do_copy() for each file. Since the only difference between the current
and the new proposal would be two additional calls to do_readxattrs() in
do_name() and unpack_to_rootfs(), maybe we could support both.

Roberto

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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17 16:55 [PATCH v3 0/2] initramfs: add support for xattrs in the initial ram disk Roberto Sassu
2019-05-17 16:55 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] initramfs: set extended attributes Roberto Sassu
2019-05-17 16:55 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] initramfs: introduce do_readxattrs() Roberto Sassu
2019-05-17 20:18   ` hpa
2019-05-17 21:02     ` Arvind Sankar
2019-05-17 21:10       ` Arvind Sankar
2019-05-20  8:16         ` Roberto Sassu
2019-05-17 21:47       ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-05-17 22:17         ` Arvind Sankar
2019-05-20  9:39           ` Roberto Sassu [this message]
2019-05-22 16:17             ` hpa
2019-05-22 17:22               ` Roberto Sassu
2019-05-22 19:26               ` Rob Landley
2019-05-22 20:21                 ` Taras Kondratiuk
2019-05-17 21:17     ` Rob Landley
2019-05-17 21:41     ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-05-18  2:16       ` Rob Landley
2019-05-22 16:18         ` hpa
2019-05-20  8:47     ` Roberto Sassu
2019-05-17 23:09   ` kbuild test robot
2019-05-18  1:02   ` kbuild test robot
2019-05-18  5:49   ` kbuild test robot

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