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From: Janne Karhunen <janne.karhunen@gmail.com>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
Cc: keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/6] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 09:36:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAE=NcrYz8bT9zDhS_ZcvY84fpeTDxZ-KhJKeQGGyf=o4pG2J-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFA6WYOKcOzSwakHhgshZcebD8ZBMSi7xQdjWYFS79=Xc+odOg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 5:23 PM Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:

> > I guess my wording was wrong, tried to say that physical TEEs in the
> > wild vary massively hardware wise. Generalizing these things is rough.
> >
>
> There are already well defined GlobalPlatform Standards to generalize
> the TEE interface. One of them is GlobalPlatform TEE Client API [1]
> which provides the basis for this TEE interface.

I'm aware of it - I have implemented a large part of the GP TEE APIs
earlier (primarily the crypto functions). Does the TEE you work with
actually support GP properly? Can I take a look at the code?

Normally the TEE implementations are well-guarded secrets and the
state of the implementation is quite random. In many cases keeping
things secret is fine from my point of view, given that it is a RoT
after all. The secrecy is the core business here. So, this is why I
opted the userspace 'secret' route - no secrets in the kernel, but
it's fine for the userspace. Umh was a logical fit to implement it.


--
Janne

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-01  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-30 12:23 [RFC v2 0/6] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 1/6] tee: optee: allow kernel pages to register as shm Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 2/6] tee: enable support to register kernel memory Sumit Garg
2019-08-08 22:26   ` [Tee-dev] " Stuart Yoder
2019-08-09  5:36     ` Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 3/6] tee: add private login method for kernel clients Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 4/6] KEYS: trusted: Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 5/6] doc: keys: Document usage of " Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 6/6] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for " Sumit Garg
2019-07-31  7:11 ` [RFC v2 0/6] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support Janne Karhunen
2019-07-31 10:21   ` Janne Karhunen
2019-07-31 13:58     ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01  6:21       ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01  7:40         ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01  7:59           ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01 10:00             ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01 10:40               ` Janne Karhunen
2019-07-31 10:26   ` Sumit Garg
2019-07-31 11:02     ` Janne Karhunen
2019-07-31 14:23       ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01  6:36         ` Janne Karhunen [this message]
2019-08-01  6:50           ` [Tee-dev] " Rouven Czerwinski
2019-08-01  7:30             ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01  7:58               ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01  8:30                 ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01 10:27                   ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-04 20:48 ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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