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From: Tushar Sugandhi <tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, zohar@linux.ibm.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Cc: jmorris@namei.org, chpebeni@linux.microsoft.com,
	nramas@linux.microsoft.com, balajib@microsoft.com,
	sashal@kernel.org, suredd@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] IMA: New IMA measurements for dm-crypt and selinux
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 17:46:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c76e89f4-6f39-f2f0-6459-a723df67c75f@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76a9556d-b141-d26f-7b3c-3887d3a4ae16@gmail.com>



On 2020-04-08 9:28 a.m., Milan Broz wrote:
> On 08/04/2020 12:19, Tushar Sugandhi wrote:
<snip>
>> Proposal:
>> ---------
>> A. Measuring dmcrypt constructs:
>>       We can add an IMA hook in crypt_ctr() present in
>>       drivers/md/dm-crypt.c, so that IMA can start measuring the status of
>>       various dm-crypt targets (represented by crypt_target struct - also
>>       defined in dm-crypt.c).
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I do not think you should just cherry-pick dm-crypt here. What about other
> device-mapper targets? Apparently, dm-verity or dm-integrity are obvious
> candidates too.
> 
> But device-mapper logic is based on stacking devices, so in generic case
> (not just in some very special embedded configuration) you need to measure
> the whole stack of devices.
> (Just imagine a target stacked below dm-crypt that decrypts the device or so. :-)
> 
> Moreover, dm-crypt allows some specific actions like wiping and reloading
> of the encryption key through device-mapper dm-crypt message.
> If you check parameter only in crypt_ctr, this message path must be disabled,
> basically crippling dm-crypt functionality (it is intended to wipe key in-memory
> during hw suspend).
> 
> 
> IMO if you want implement something like IMA measurement, I think you should
> implement it in device-mapper core, and provide support for all targets.
I agree that this needs to be implemented in device-mapper core,
rather than highter applications like  dm-crypt, dm-verity, or dm-integrity.
Functions like dm_table_create(), dm_table_destroy(), 
dm_table_verify_integrity(),
dm_table_complete(), dm_table_add_target() etc. in drivers/md/dm-table.c 
look like good
candidates to add hooks for IMA.
Please let me know if you have any other recommendations.
> I guess some new target specific callback is needed and some flags that
> could enforce/disable stacking if a IMA measurement is in place etc.
> 
> Milan
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-17  0:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-08 10:19 [RFC] IMA: New IMA measurements for dm-crypt and selinux Tushar Sugandhi
2020-04-08 16:28 ` Milan Broz
2020-04-17  0:46   ` Tushar Sugandhi [this message]
2020-04-08 16:34 ` Casey Schaufler
2020-04-17  0:49   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2020-04-11 19:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-04-12  8:15   ` Lev R. Oshvang .
2020-04-14  1:11     ` Mimi Zohar
2020-04-14 10:06       ` Lev R. Oshvang .
2020-04-17  0:53       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2020-04-17  0:52     ` Tushar Sugandhi

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