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From: Ross Philipson <ross.philipson@oracle.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Cc: dpsmith@apertussolutions.com, luto@amacapital.net,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, trenchboot-devel@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/12] iommu: Do not allow IOMMU passthrough with Secure Launch
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 05:47:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d97164e4-b776-0efe-d243-8a71b085d897@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8376f5ec-f228-0e82-a032-401f91b6aa3b@arm.com>

On 6/22/21 7:06 AM, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2021-06-21 18:51, Ross Philipson wrote:
>> On 6/18/21 2:32 PM, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-18 17:12, Ross Philipson wrote:
>>>> The IOMMU should always be set to default translated type after
>>>> the PMRs are disabled to protect the MLE from DMA.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ross Philipson <ross.philipson@oracle.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c | 5 +++++
>>>>    drivers/iommu/iommu.c       | 6 +++++-
>>>>    2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c
>>>> index be35284..4f0256d 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c
>>>> @@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
>>>>    #include <linux/dma-direct.h>
>>>>    #include <linux/crash_dump.h>
>>>>    #include <linux/numa.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/slaunch.h>
>>>>    #include <asm/irq_remapping.h>
>>>>    #include <asm/cacheflush.h>
>>>>    #include <asm/iommu.h>
>>>> @@ -2877,6 +2878,10 @@ static bool device_is_rmrr_locked(struct device
>>>> *dev)
>>>>     */
>>>>    static int device_def_domain_type(struct device *dev)
>>>>    {
>>>> +    /* Do not allow identity domain when Secure Launch is 
>>>> configured */
>>>> +    if (slaunch_get_flags() & SL_FLAG_ACTIVE)
>>>> +        return IOMMU_DOMAIN_DMA;
>>>
>>> Is this specific to Intel? It seems like it could easily be done
>>> commonly like the check for untrusted external devices.
>>
>> It is currently Intel only but that will change. I will look into what
>> you suggest.
> 
> Yeah, it's simple and unobtrusive enough that I reckon it's worth going 
> straight to the common version if it's worth doing at all.
> 
>>>> +
>>>>        if (dev_is_pci(dev)) {
>>>>            struct pci_dev *pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
>>>>    diff --git a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
>>>> index 808ab70d..d49b7dd 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
>>>> @@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
>>>>    #include <linux/property.h>
>>>>    #include <linux/fsl/mc.h>
>>>>    #include <linux/module.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/slaunch.h>
>>>>    #include <trace/events/iommu.h>
>>>>      static struct kset *iommu_group_kset;
>>>> @@ -2761,7 +2762,10 @@ void iommu_set_default_passthrough(bool 
>>>> cmd_line)
>>>>    {
>>>>        if (cmd_line)
>>>>            iommu_cmd_line |= IOMMU_CMD_LINE_DMA_API;
>>>> -    iommu_def_domain_type = IOMMU_DOMAIN_IDENTITY;
>>>> +
>>>> +    /* Do not allow identity domain when Secure Launch is 
>>>> configured */
>>>> +    if (!(slaunch_get_flags() & SL_FLAG_ACTIVE))
>>>> +        iommu_def_domain_type = IOMMU_DOMAIN_IDENTITY;
>>>
>>> Quietly ignoring the setting and possibly leaving iommu_def_domain_type
>>> uninitialised (note that 0 is not actually a usable type) doesn't seem
>>> great. AFAICS this probably warrants similar treatment to the
>>
>> Ok so I guess it would be better to set it to IOMMU_DOMAIN_DMA event
>> though passthrough was requested. Or perhaps something more is needed 
>> here?
>>
>>> mem_encrypt_active() case - there doesn't seem a great deal of value in
>>> trying to save users from themselves if they care about measured boot
>>> yet explicitly pass options which may compromise measured boot. If you
>>> really want to go down that route there's at least the sysfs interface
>>> you'd need to nobble as well, not to mention the various ways of
>>> completely disabling IOMMUs...
>>
>> Doing a secure launch with the kernel is not a general purpose user use
>> case. A lot of work is done to secure the environment. Allowing
>> passthrough mode would leave the secure launch kernel exposed to DMA. I
>> think what we are trying to do here is what we intend though there may
>> be a better way or perhaps it is incomplete as you suggest.
> 
> On second thoughts this is overkill anyway - if you do hook 
> iommu_get_def_domain_type(), you're done (in terms of the kernel-managed 
> setting, at least); it doesn't matter what iommu_def_domain_type gets 
> set to if will never get used. However, since this isn't really a 
> per-device thing, it might be more semantically appropriate to leave 
> that alone and instead only massage the default type in 
> iommu_subsys_init(), as for memory encryption.
> 
> When you say "secure the environment", what's the actual threat model 
> here, i.e. who's securing what against whom? If it's a device lockdown 
> type thing where the system owner wants to defend against the end user 
> trying to mess with the software stack or gain access to parts they 
> shouldn't, then possibly you can trust the command line, but there are 
> definitely other places which need consideration. If on the other hand 
> it's more about giving the end user confidence that their choice of 
> software stack isn't being interfered with by a malicious host or 
> external third parties, then it probably leans towards the opposite 
> being true...
> 
> If the command line *is* within the threat model, consider "iommu=off" 
> and/or "intel_iommu=off" for example: I don't know how PMRs work, but I 
> can only imagine that that's liable to leave things either wide open, or 
> blocked to the point of no DMA working at all, neither of which seems to 
> be what you want. I'm guessing "intel_iommu=tboot_noforce" might have 
> some relevant implications too.


Thank you for you suggestions and feedback. Sorry we did not get back 
sooner. After the comments from you and Andy Lutomirski we decided we 
needed to re-imagine what we are trying to accomplish here and how else 
we might approach it.

Ross

> 
>>> It might be reasonable to make IOMMU_DEFAULT_PASSTHROUGH depend on
>>> !SECURE_LAUNCH for clarity though.
>>
>> This came from a specific request to not make disabling IOMMU modes
>> build time dependent. This is because a secure launch enabled kernel can
>> also be booted as a general purpose kernel in cases where this is 
>> desired.
> 
> Ah, thanks for clarifying - I was wondering about that aspect. FWIW, 
> note that that wouldn't actually change any functionality - it's a 
> non-default config option anyway, and users could still override it 
> either way in a non-secure-launch setup - but it sounds like it might be 
> effectively superfluous if you do need to make a more active runtime 
> decision anyway.
> 
> Cheers,
> Robin.


      reply	other threads:[~2021-06-30  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-18 16:12 [PATCH v2 00/12] x86: Trenchboot secure dynamic launch Linux kernel support Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] x86/boot: Place kernel_info at a fixed offset Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] x86: Secure Launch Kconfig Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] x86: Secure Launch main header file Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] x86: Add early SHA support for Secure Launch early measurements Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] x86: Secure Launch kernel early boot stub Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] x86: Secure Launch kernel late " Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] x86: Secure Launch SMP bringup support Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] kexec: Secure Launch kexec SEXIT support Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] reboot: Secure Launch SEXIT support on reboot paths Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] x86: Secure Launch late initcall platform module Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] tpm: Allow locality 2 to be set when initializing the TPM for Secure Launch Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] iommu: Do not allow IOMMU passthrough with " Ross Philipson
2021-06-18 18:32   ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-21 17:51     ` Ross Philipson
2021-06-21 21:15       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-30  9:50         ` Ross Philipson
2021-08-04  3:05         ` Daniel P. Smith
2021-06-22 11:06       ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-30  9:47         ` Ross Philipson [this message]

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