From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MENTIONS_GIT_HOSTING,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363DCC47257 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 08:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201D62073A for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 08:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726222AbgEGIaP (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 May 2020 04:30:15 -0400 Received: from smtp-190e.mail.infomaniak.ch ([185.125.25.14]:36981 "EHLO smtp-190e.mail.infomaniak.ch" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725953AbgEGIaP (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 May 2020 04:30:15 -0400 Received: from smtp-2-0000.mail.infomaniak.ch (unknown [10.5.36.107]) by smtp-3-3000.mail.infomaniak.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HmqS2fKzzlj47t; Thu, 7 May 2020 10:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ns3096276.ip-94-23-54.eu (unknown [94.23.54.103]) by smtp-2-0000.mail.infomaniak.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 49HmqJ429fzlpk1S; Thu, 7 May 2020 10:30:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/6] Add support for O_MAYEXEC To: "Lev R. 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Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Aleksa Sarai , Alexei Starovoitov , Al Viro , Andy Lutomirski , Christian Heimes , Daniel Borkmann , Deven Bowers , Eric Chiang , Florian Weimer , James Morris , Jan Kara , Jann Horn , Jonathan Corbet , Kees Cook , Lakshmi Ramasubramanian , Matthew Garrett , Matthew Wilcox , Michael Kerrisk , =?UTF-8?Q?Micka=c3=abl_Sala=c3=bcn?= , Mimi Zohar , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Tr=c3=a9buchet?= , Scott Shell , Sean Christopherson , Shuah Khan , Steve Dower , Steve Grubb , Thibaut Sautereau , Vincent Strubel , kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, LSM List , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org References: <20200505153156.925111-1-mic@digikod.net> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micka=c3=abl_Sala=c3=bcn?= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 10:30:04 +0200 User-Agent: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Unix mail servers drweb plugin ver.6.0.2.8 X-Antivirus-Code: 0x100000 Sender: linux-integrity-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org On 06/05/2020 15:58, Lev R. Oshvang . wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:36 PM Mickaël Salaün wrote: >> >> >> On 05/05/2020 17:31, Mickaël Salaün wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> This fifth patch series add new kernel configurations (OMAYEXEC_STATIC, >>> OMAYEXEC_ENFORCE_MOUNT, and OMAYEXEC_ENFORCE_FILE) to enable to >>> configure the security policy at kernel build time. As requested by >>> Mimi Zohar, I completed the series with one of her patches for IMA. >>> >>> The goal of this patch series is to enable to control script execution >>> with interpreters help. A new O_MAYEXEC flag, usable through >>> openat2(2), is added to enable userspace script interpreter to delegate >>> to the kernel (and thus the system security policy) the permission to >>> interpret/execute scripts or other files containing what can be seen as >>> commands. >>> >>> A simple system-wide security policy can be enforced by the system >>> administrator through a sysctl configuration consistent with the mount >>> points or the file access rights. The documentation patch explains the >>> prerequisites. >>> >>> Furthermore, the security policy can also be delegated to an LSM, either >>> a MAC system or an integrity system. For instance, the new kernel >>> MAY_OPENEXEC flag closes a major IMA measurement/appraisal interpreter >>> integrity gap by bringing the ability to check the use of scripts [1]. >>> Other uses are expected, such as for openat2(2) [2], SGX integration >>> [3], bpffs [4] or IPE [5]. >>> >>> Userspace needs to adapt to take advantage of this new feature. For >>> example, the PEP 578 [6] (Runtime Audit Hooks) enables Python 3.8 to be >>> extended with policy enforcement points related to code interpretation, >>> which can be used to align with the PowerShell audit features. >>> Additional Python security improvements (e.g. a limited interpreter >>> withou -c, stdin piping of code) are on their way. >>> >>> The initial idea come from CLIP OS 4 and the original implementation has >>> been used for more than 12 years: >>> https://github.com/clipos-archive/clipos4_doc >>> >>> An introduction to O_MAYEXEC was given at the Linux Security Summit >>> Europe 2018 - Linux Kernel Security Contributions by ANSSI: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chNjCRtPKQY&t=17m15s >>> The "write xor execute" principle was explained at Kernel Recipes 2018 - >>> CLIP OS: a defense-in-depth OS: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjRE0uBtkHU&t=11m14s >>> >>> This patch series can be applied on top of v5.7-rc4. This can be tested >>> with CONFIG_SYSCTL. I would really appreciate constructive comments on >>> this patch series. >>> >>> Previous version: >>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200428175129.634352-1-mic@digikod.net/ >> >> The previous version (v4) is >> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200430132320.699508-1-mic@digikod.net/ > > > Hi Michael > > I have couple of question > 1. Why you did not add O_MAYEXEC to open()? > Some time ago (around v4.14) open() did not return EINVAL when > VALID_OPEN_FLAGS check failed. > Now it does, so I do not see a problem that interpreter will use > simple open(), ( Although that path might be manipulated, but file > contents will be verified by IMA) Aleksa replied to this. > 2. When you apply a new flag to mount, it means that IMA will check > all files under this mount and it does not matter whether the file in > question is a script or not. > IMHO it is too hard overhead for performance reasons. This patch series doesn't change the way IMA handles mount points. > > Regards, > LEv >