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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Ilias Apalodimas
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/40] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 09:39:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180525093959.000040a7@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180525063311.GA11605@apalos>

+CC Kenneth Lee

On Fri, 25 May 2018 09:33:11 +0300
Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 04:04:39PM +0100, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> > On 24/05/18 12:50, Ilias Apalodimas wrote:  
> > >> Interesting, I hadn't thought about this use-case before. At first I
> > >> thought you were talking about mdev devices assigned to VMs, but I think
> > >> you're referring to mdevs assigned to userspace drivers instead? Out of
> > >> curiosity, is it only theoretical or does someone actually need this?  
> > > 
> > > There has been some non upstreamed efforts to have mdev and produce userspace
> > > drivers. Huawei is using it on what they call "wrapdrive" for crypto devices and
> > > we did a proof of concept for ethernet interfaces. At the time we choose not to
> > > involve the IOMMU for the reason you mentioned, but having it there would be
> > > good.  
> > 
> > I'm guessing there were good reasons to do it that way but I wonder, is
> > it not simpler to just have the kernel driver create a /dev/foo, with a
> > standard ioctl/mmap/poll interface? Here VFIO adds a layer of
> > indirection, and since the mediating driver has to implement these
> > operations already, what is gained?  
> The best reason i can come up with is "common code". You already have one API
> doing that for you so we replicate it in a /dev file?
> The mdev approach still needs extentions to support what we tried to do (i.e
> mdev bus might need yo have access on iommu_ops), but as far as i undestand it's
> a possible case.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jean  

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-25  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-11 19:06 [PATCH v2 00/40] Shared Virtual Addressing for the IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found] ` <20180511190641.23008-1-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 01/40] iommu: Introduce Shared Virtual Addressing API Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-2-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-16 20:41       ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 10:02         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 17:00           ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-05 11:29       ` Auger Eric
     [not found]         ` <bf42affd-e9d0-e4fc-6d28-f3c3f7795348-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06 11:09           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <03d31ba5-1eda-ea86-8c0c-91d14c86fe83-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06 11:12               ` Christian König
     [not found]                 ` <ed39159c-087e-7e56-7d29-d1de9fa1677f-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06 12:45                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                     ` <f0b317d5-e2e9-5478-952c-05e8b97bd68b-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-07  8:55                       ` Christian König
     [not found]                         ` <2fd4a0a1-1a35-bf82-df84-b995cce011d9-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-07 15:45                           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                             ` <65e7accd-4446-19f5-c667-c6407e89cfa6-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-07 18:02                               ` Christian König
     [not found]                                 ` <5bbc0332-b94b-75cc-ca42-a9b196811daf-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-07 21:25                                   ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-08  7:29                                     ` Christian König
     [not found]                                       ` <3e3a6797-a233-911b-3a7d-d9b549160960-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-12 12:40                                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                           ` <9445a0be-fb5b-d195-4fdf-7ad6cb36ef4f-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-12 12:56                                             ` Christian König
2018-09-13  7:15                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-13  7:26                           ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 02/40] iommu/sva: Bind process address spaces to devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-3-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-17 13:10       ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]         ` <20180517141058.00001c76-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-21 14:43           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 11:29       ` Auger Eric
     [not found]         ` <471873d4-a1a6-1a3a-cf17-1e686b4ade96-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06 11:09           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 03/40] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-4-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-16 23:31       ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 10:02         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]           ` <de478769-9f7a-d40b-a55e-e2c63ad883e8-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22 16:43             ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-24 11:44               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-24 11:50                 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2018-05-24 15:04                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                     ` <19e82a74-429a-3f86-119e-32b12082d0ff-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-25  6:33                       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2018-05-25  8:39                         ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <20180525093959.000040a7-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-26  2:24                             ` Kenneth Lee
2018-05-26  2:24                           ` Kenneth Lee
     [not found]                           ` <20180526022445.GA6069@kllp05>
2018-06-11 16:10                             ` Kenneth Lee
2018-06-11 16:10                             ` Kenneth Lee
2018-06-11 16:32                           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-05-17 14:25       ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]         ` <20180517150516.000067ca-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-21 14:44           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 12:14       ` Auger Eric
     [not found]         ` <d785ec89-6743-d0f1-1a7f-85599a033e5b-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-05 18:18           ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-06 17:40             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 11:10           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 04/40] iommu/sva: Add a mm_exit callback for device drivers Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-5-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-05 13:23       ` Auger Eric
     [not found]         ` <d1dc28c4-7742-9c41-3f91-3fbcb8b13c1c-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06 11:10           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 05/40] iommu/sva: Track mm changes with an MMU notifier Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-6-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-17 14:25       ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]         ` <20180517152514.00004247-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-21 14:44           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 06/40] iommu/sva: Search mm by PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 07/40] iommu: Add a page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-8-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-17 15:25       ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]         ` <20180517162555.00002bd3-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-21 14:48           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-18 18:04       ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-21 14:49         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]           ` <8a640794-a6f3-fa01-82a9-06479a6f779a-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22 23:35             ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-24 11:44               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                 ` <bdf9f221-ab97-2168-d072-b7f6a0dba840-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-26  0:35                   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-29 10:00                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 08/40] iommu/iopf: Handle mm faults Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 09/40] iommu/sva: Register page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 10/40] mm: export symbol mm_access Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 11/40] mm: export symbol find_get_task_by_vpid Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 12/40] mm: export symbol mmput_async Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 13/40] vfio: Add support for Shared Virtual Addressing Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-14-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-17 15:58       ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]         ` <20180517165845.00000cc9-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-21 14:51           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-23  9:38       ` Xu Zaibo
     [not found]         ` <5B0536A3.1000304-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-24 11:44           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <cd13f60d-b282-3804-4ca7-2d34476c597f-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-24 12:35               ` Xu Zaibo
     [not found]                 ` <5B06B17C.1090809-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-24 15:04                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                     ` <205c1729-8026-3efe-c363-d37d7150d622-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-25  2:39                       ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-25  9:47                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                           ` <fea420ff-e738-e2ed-ab1e-a3f4dde4b6ef-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-26  3:53                             ` Xu Zaibo
     [not found]                               ` <5B08DA21.3070507-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-29 11:55                                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                   ` <99ff4f89-86ef-a251-894c-8aa8a47d2a69-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-29 12:24                                     ` Xu Zaibo
2018-08-27  8:06       ` Xu Zaibo
     [not found]         ` <5B83B11E.7010807-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-31 13:34           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <1d5b6529-4e5a-723c-3f1b-dd5a9adb490c-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-01  2:23               ` Xu Zaibo
     [not found]                 ` <5B89F818.7060300-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-03 10:34                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                     ` <3a961aff-e830-64bb-b6a9-14e08de1abf5-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-04  2:12                       ` Xu Zaibo
     [not found]                         ` <5B8DEA15.7020404-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-04 10:57                           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                             ` <bc27f902-4d12-21b7-b9e9-18bcae170503-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-05  3:15                               ` Xu Zaibo
     [not found]                                 ` <5B8F4A59.20004-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-05 11:02                                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                     ` <b51107b8-a525-13ce-f4c3-d423b8502c27-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06  7:26                                       ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 14/40] dt-bindings: document stall and PASID properties for IOMMU masters Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 15/40] iommu/of: Add stall and pasid properties to iommu_fwspec Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 16/40] arm64: mm: Pin down ASIDs for sharing mm with devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-17-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-15 14:16       ` Catalin Marinas
     [not found]         ` <20180515141658.vivrgcyww2pxumye-+1aNUgJU5qkijLcmloz0ER/iLCjYCKR+VpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-17 10:01           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 17/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Link domains and devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-18-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-17 16:07       ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]         ` <20180517170748.00004927-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-21 14:49           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-10 15:16       ` Auger Eric
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 18/40] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Factor out ARM LPAE register defines Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 19/40] iommu: Add generic PASID table library Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 20/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move context descriptor code Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 21/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Substream IDs Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-22-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-31 11:01       ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
     [not found]         ` <BLUPR0201MB1505AA55707BE2E13392FFAFA5630-hRBPhS1iNj/g9tdZWAsUFxrHTHEw16jenBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-01 10:46           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 22/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add second level of context descriptor table Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 23/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Share process page tables Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 24/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Seize private ASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 25/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for VHE Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 26/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable broadcast TLB maintenance Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 27/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add SVA feature checking Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 28/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement mm operations Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 29/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Hardware Translation Table Update Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 30/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Register I/O Page Fault queue Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 31/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Improve add_device error handling Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 32/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Maintain a SID->device structure Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 33/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add stall support for platform devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 34/40] ACPI/IORT: Check ATS capability in root complex nodes Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 35/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PCI ATS Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-36-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-19 17:25       ` Sinan Kaya
     [not found]         ` <922474e8-0aa5-e022-0502-f1e51b0d4859-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-21 14:52           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 36/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Hook up ATC invalidation to mm ops Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 37/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Disable tagged pointers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 38/40] PCI: Make "PRG Response PASID Required" handling common Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 39/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PRI Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180511190641.23008-40-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-25 14:08       ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
     [not found]         ` <BLUPR0201MB150513BBAA161355DE9B3A48A5690-hRBPhS1iNj/g9tdZWAsUFxrHTHEw16jenBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-29 10:27           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06   ` [PATCH v2 40/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PCI PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker

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