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From: Jordan Crouse <jcrouse-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Tian,
	Kevin" <kevin.tian-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:35:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181022153542.GG26762@jcrouse-lnx.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11f88122-afd3-a34c-3cd4-db681bf5498b-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:50:56PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 22/10/2018 07:53, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> >>From: Jean-Philippe Brucker [mailto:jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org]
> >>Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 2:12 AM
> >>
> >>This is a first prototype adding auxiliary domain support to Arm SMMUv3,
> >>following Lu Baolu's latest proposal for IOMMU aware mediated devices
> >>[1]. It works, but the attach() API still doesn't feel right. See (2)
> >>below.
> >>
> >>Patch 1 adapts iommu.c to the current proposal for auxiliary domains.
> >>Patches 2-4 rework the PASID allocator to make it usable for SVA and
> >>AUXD simultaneously. Patches 5-6 add AUXD support to SMMUv3.
> >>
> >>
> >>When a device can have multiple address space, for instance with PCI
> >>PASID, an auxiliary domain (AUXD) is the IOMMU representation of one
> >>address space. I distinguish auxiliary from "main" domain, which
> >>represents the non-PASID address space but also (at least for SMMUv3)
> >>the whole device context, PASID tables etc.
> >
> >I'd like to clarify a bit. :-)
> >
> >a domain can always represent one or more address spaces, where an
> >address space could be for IOVA or GPA and/or other address spaces for
> >SVA. Address spaces may be chained together in so-called nested mode.
> >
> >a domain can be associated with a full device (in BDF granular), and/or
> >with a partition of a device (say in PASID granular). In the former case,
> >the domain becomes the master (or primary) domain of the device. In
> >the latter case, the domain becomes the auxiliary domain of the device.
> >
> >vendor domain structure may include vendor-specific states which
> >are applied to device context at attach time, e.g. PASID table (SMMUv3)
> >if representing as master domain, or PASID value (VT-d scalable mode)
> >if representing as auxiliary domain.
> >
> >so the domain definition is never changed with the introduction of
> >AUXD. 'auxiliary' is a per-device attribute which takes effect when at
> >domain attach time. A domain is perfectly sane to represent as a
> >master domain to deviceA and an auxiliary domain to deviceB at the
> >same time (say when device A and a mdev on deviceB are assigned to
> >same VM), while supporting one or more address spaces.
> 
> To me, that sounds like a very good argument for having separate
> "attach as primary domain" and "attach as aux domain" APIs. Say a
> driver wants to use multiple aux domains itself to isolate
> logically-separate transaction streams, but still also needs to
> control the main domain for transactions without PASID (interrupts?)
> - having to juggle some invisible device state around multiple
> iommu_{attach,detach}_group() calls which look identical but are
> expected to behave differently at runtime sounds like a recipe for
> unmaintainable code.
> 
> I don't think it's necessarily safe to assume that
> one-struct-device-per-PASID will be the only usage model.

This feels exactly like the QCOM GPU model - multiple aux domains
for individual process pagetables but the main domain for TTBR1
(global) allocations.

Jordan

-- 
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of Code Aurora Forum,
a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-22 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-19 18:11 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3 Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found] ` <20181019181158.2395-1-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] iommu: Adapt attach/detach_dev() for auxiliary domains Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20181019181158.2395-2-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22  2:32       ` Lu Baolu
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] drivers core: Add I/O ASID allocator Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20181019181158.2395-3-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22  4:49       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <9c6cd6c1-3569-4251-8344-fc9df0e743bc-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 10:22           ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]             ` <20181022102254.GA25399-7RUrO8UaCDyr4tA6zuQqW9h3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23  6:56               ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                 ` <02006e4f-2acf-6ff8-b695-c54c99509b46-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 22:13                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-11-07  4:53       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <fb2bd5fe-5742-fcd8-b8f0-1885040e8d4f-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-08 18:51           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-11-12 14:40       ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]         ` <20181112144039.GA25808-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 11:16           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <8f17757a-c657-aab9-a6a0-fb0cc9c610a8-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 19:10               ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                 ` <62f05552-df46-6e12-10ed-820429dfda59-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-22  6:59                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-11-22  8:38                   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-11-22  8:44               ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                 ` <20181122084429.GB1586-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-22 11:17                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] iommu/sva: Use external PASID allocator Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] iommu/sva: Support AUXD feature Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement detach_dev op Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for auxiliary domains Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-20  3:36   ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3 Xu Zaibo
2018-10-22  6:53   ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]     ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE0E176-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 11:50       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <11f88122-afd3-a34c-3cd4-db681bf5498b-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 15:35           ` Jordan Crouse [this message]
2018-10-22 18:01           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-11-06 16:25           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]             ` <20181106162539.4gmkvg57mja3bn7k-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07  3:40               ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                 ` <e22e3631-2ecb-664d-5666-8e0f865dec83-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07 16:43                   ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                     ` <20181107164323.GA19831-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07 17:23                       ` Alex Williamson
2018-11-21  4:40                       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                         ` <758bb120-5bc0-1e2d-ccd0-9be0bcc5d8bc-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 11:21                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                             ` <20181123112125.GF1586-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-25  6:51                               ` Lu Baolu
2018-11-26  3:01                               ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                             ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE68777@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]                               ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE68777-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-26  7:29                                 ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                   ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE689B8-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-07 10:29                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                       ` <20181207102926.GM16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  2:06                                         ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                           ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE95394-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  8:57                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                               ` <20181210085745.GN16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-11 18:34                                                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                                   ` <4be63d12-fa1c-b180-761b-5e8ceed58545-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:22                                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-12-12  9:31                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                                   ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE9D6CA-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:54                                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                                       ` <20181212095403.GU16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12 10:03                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-12-10  2:57                                         ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                                           ` <bf1ee4a3-6d3f-e0db-a02a-1db819843a60-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  8:59                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-12-11 13:35                                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                           ` <fc173d9f-57e2-dd87-95d0-1c615f2e14e3-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:29                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-11-08 18:29               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                 ` <42949d93-e22c-dd4d-cd49-46efc0b73cdb-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-12 14:55                   ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                     ` <20181112145541.GB25808-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 19:05                       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                         ` <5dcf9238-62b2-8df6-b378-183ee09c5951-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 12:50                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
2018-11-22  8:39                       ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                         ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE5A7A7-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 12:14                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
2018-10-22 10:07   ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]     ` <20181021194426.GA11201-7RUrO8UaCDyr4tA6zuQqW9h3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 16:03       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]         ` <d45c5222-68e9-1d6e-730b-bb8dbc060586-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 17:16           ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]             ` <1540314963.21962.20.camel-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 22:08               ` Tian, Kevin
2018-10-26  3:00           ` Lu Baolu
2018-10-22 16:48   ` Jordan Crouse
     [not found]     ` <20181022164834.GH26762-9PYrDHPZ2Orvke4nUoYGnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-02  3:19       ` Lu Baolu

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