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From: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@intel.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 05/21] x86/hpet: Reserve timer for the HPET hardlockup detector
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:48:14 -0700
Message-ID: <20190618224814.GE30488@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1906141726190.1722@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 06:10:18PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 09:54:25PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Thu, 23 May 2019, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> > > 
> > > > HPET timer 2 will be used to drive the HPET-based hardlockup detector.
> > > > Reserve such timer to ensure it cannot be used by user space programs or
> > > > for clock events.
> > > > 
> > > > When looking for MSI-capable timers for clock events, skip timer 2 if
> > > > the HPET hardlockup detector is selected.
> > > 
> > > Why? Both the changelog and the code change lack an explanation why this
> > > timer is actually touched after it got reserved for the platform. The
> > > reservation should make it inaccessible for other things.
> > 
> > hpet_reserve_platform_timers() will give the HPET char driver a data
> > structure which specifies which drivers are reserved. In this manner,
> > they cannot be used by applications via file opens. The timer used by
> > the hardlockup detector should be marked as reserved.
> > 
> > Also, hpet_msi_capability_lookup() populates another data structure
> > which is used when obtaining an unused timer for a HPET clock event.
> > The timer used by the hardlockup detector should not be included in such
> > data structure.
> > 
> > Is this the explanation you would like to see? If yes, I will include it
> > in the changelog.
> 
> Yes, the explanation makes sense. The code still sucks. Not really your
> fault, but this is not making it any better.
> 
> What bothers me most is the fact that CONFIG_X86_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR_HPET
> removes one HPET timer unconditionally. It neither checks whether the hpet
> watchdog is actually enabled on the command line, nor does it validate
> upfront whether the HPET supports FSB delivery.
> 
> That wastes an HPET timer unconditionally for no value. Not that I
> personally care much about /dev/hpet, but some older laptops depend on HPET
> per cpu timers as the local APIC timer stops in C2/3. So this unconditional
> reservation will cause regressions for no reason.
> 
> The proper approach here is to:
> 
>  1) Evaluate the command line _before_ hpet_enable() is invoked
> 
>  2) Check the availability of FSB delivery in hpet_enable()
> 
> Reserve an HPET channel for the watchdog only when #1 and #2 are true.

Sure. I will add the explanation in the message commit and only reserve
the timer if both of the conditions above are met.

Thanks and BR,
Ricardo
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-24  1:16 [RFC PATCH v4 00/21] Implement an HPET-based " Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/21] x86/msi: Add definition for NMI delivery mode Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/21] x86/hpet: Expose hpet_writel() in header Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/21] x86/hpet: Calculate ticks-per-second in a separate function Ricardo Neri
2019-06-14 15:54   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-14 15:59     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:48     ` Ricardo Neri
2019-06-18 23:13       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/21] x86/hpet: Add hpet_set_comparator() for periodic and one-shot modes Ricardo Neri
2019-06-14 18:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:48     ` Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/21] x86/hpet: Reserve timer for the HPET hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2019-06-11 19:54   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-14  1:14     ` Ricardo Neri
2019-06-14 16:10       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:48         ` Ricardo Neri [this message]
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/21] x86/hpet: Configure the timer used by the " Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/21] watchdog/hardlockup: Define a generic function to detect hardlockups Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/21] watchdog/hardlockup: Decouple the hardlockup detector from perf Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/21] x86/nmi: Add a NMI_WATCHDOG NMI handler category Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/21] watchdog/hardlockup: Add function to enable NMI watchdog on all allowed CPUs at once Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/21] x86/watchdog/hardlockup: Add an HPET-based hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/21] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Adjust timer expiration on the number of monitored CPUs Ricardo Neri
2019-06-11 20:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:46     ` Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/21] x86/watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Determine if HPET timer caused NMI Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/21] watchdog/hardlockup: Use parse_option_str() to handle "nmi_watchdog" Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/21] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Only enable the HPET watchdog via a boot parameter Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/21] x86/watchdog: Add a shim hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/21] x86/tsc: Switch to perf-based hardlockup detector if TSC become unstable Ricardo Neri
2019-06-07  0:35   ` Stephane Eranian via iommu
2019-06-07 14:14     ` Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/21] x86/apic: Add a parameter for the APIC delivery mode Ricardo Neri
2019-06-16  9:55   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:47     ` Ricardo Neri
2019-06-18 23:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/21] iommu/vt-d: Rework prepare_irte() to support per-irq " Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/21] iommu/vt-d: hpet: Reserve an interrupt remampping table entry for watchdog Ricardo Neri
2019-06-16 18:42   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-16 19:21   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-17  8:25     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-17 21:38       ` Stephane Eranian via iommu
2019-06-17 23:08         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-19 15:43           ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-21 15:33             ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-21 17:31               ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-21 18:39                 ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-21 20:05                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-21 23:55                     ` Ricardo Neri
2019-06-22  7:21                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-18  2:48           ` Ricardo Neri
2019-06-18 22:45       ` Ricardo Neri
2019-05-24  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/21] x86/watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Support interrupt remapping Ricardo Neri
2019-06-16  8:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-16  8:53     ` Thomas Gleixner

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