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From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
To: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
Cc: aou@eecs.berkeley.edu,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
	christoffer.dall@arm.com, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Anup Patel <anup.Patel@wdc.com>,
	Atish Patra <Atish.Patra@wdc.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	james.morse@arm.com, gary@garyguo.net,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 11/14] arm64: Move the ASID allocator code in a separate file
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:18:44 +0200
Message-ID: <20190919151844.GG1013538@lophozonia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJF2gTRbyfrUqAULPqJTXdxx8YOscPqAEuMsoJ+dTNobNrUV1g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 09:07:15PM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> > The solution I had to this problem is pinning the ASID [1] used by the
> > IOMMU, to prevent the CPU from recycling the ASID on rollover. This way
> > the CPU doesn't have to wait for IOMMU invalidations to complete, when
> > scheduling a task that might not even have anything to do with the IOMMU.
> >
> 
> > In the Arm SMMU, ASID and IOASID (PASID) are separate identifiers. IOASID
> > indexes an entry in the context descriptor table, which contains the ASID.
> > So with unpinned shared ASID you don't need to invalidate the ATC on
> > rollover, since the IOASID doesn't change, but you do need to modify the
> > context descriptor and invalidate cached versions of it.
> The terminology confused me a lot. I perfer use PASID for IOMMU and
> ASID is for CPU.
> Arm's entry of the context descriptor table contains a "IOASID"

The terminology I've been using so far is different:
* IOASID is PASID
* The entry in the context descriptor table contains an ASID, which
  is either "shared" with CPUs or "private" to the SMMU (the SMMU spec
  says "shared" or "non-shared").
* So the CPU and SMMU TLBs use ASIDs, and the PCI ATC uses IOASID

> IOASID != ASID for CPU_TLB and IOMMU_TLB.
> 
> When you say "since the IOASID doesn't change",Is it PASID or my IOASID ? -_*!

I was talking about PASID. Maybe we can drop "IOASID" and talk only
about ASID and PASID :)

> PASID in PCI-sig was used to determine transfer address space.
> For intel, the entry which is indexed by PASID also contain S1/S2.PGD
> and DID(VMID).
> For arm, the entry which is indexed by PASID only contain S1.PGD and
> IOASID. Compare to Intel Vt-d Scalable mode, arm's design can't
> support PCI Virtual Function.

The SMMU does support PCI Virtual Function - an hypervisor can assign a
VF to a guest, and let that guest partition the VF into smaller contexts
by using PASID.  What it can't support is assigning partitions of a PCI
function (VF or PF) to multiple Virtual Machines, since there is a
single S2 PGD per function (in the Stream Table Entry), rather than one
S2 PGD per PASID context.

Thanks,
Jean

> > Once you have pinned ASIDs, you could also declare that IOASID = ASID. I
> > don't remember finding an argument to strictly forbid it, even though ASID
> > and IOASID have different sizes on Arm (respectively 8/16 and 20 bits).
> ASID and IOASID are hard to keep the same between CPU system and IOMMU
> system. So I introduce S1/S2.PGD.PPN as a bridge between CPUs and
> IOMMUs.
> See my proposal [1]
> 
> 1: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-csky/1568896556-28769-1-git-send-email-guoren@kernel.org/T/#u
> -- 
> Best Regards
>  Guo Ren
> 
> ML: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-csky/
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2019-09-07 23:52                   ` Guo Ren
2019-09-12 14:02                     ` Will Deacon
2019-09-12 14:59                       ` Guo Ren
2019-09-13  7:13                         ` Guo Ren
2019-09-14  8:49                           ` Guo Ren
2019-09-16 12:57                           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-09-19 13:07                             ` Guo Ren
2019-09-19 15:18                               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker [this message]
2019-09-20  0:07                                 ` Guo Ren
2019-09-20  7:18                                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-09-14 14:01                       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-09-15  5:03                         ` Anup Patel
2019-09-16 18:18                           ` Will Deacon
2019-09-16 18:28                             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-09-17  3:42                             ` Anup Patel
2019-09-19 13:36                               ` Guo Ren

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