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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>
Cc: Todd Broch <tbroch@google.com>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Krishnakumar,
	Lalithambika" <lalithambika.krishnakumar@intel.com>,
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	Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Rajat Jain <rajatxjain@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pci: Add parameter to disable attaching untrusted devices
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 07:02:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200627050225.GA226238@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACK8Z6GSN5iOaCh-ZMaJSY4SgEhw=bCRDzaiPEBJbNNFhZZX6Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 11:53:34AM -0700, Rajat Jain wrote:
> a) I think what was decided was introducing a device core "location"
> property that can be exposed to userspace to help it to decide whether
> or not to attach a driver to a device. Yes, that is still the plan.

Great, but this patch ignores that and starts to add policy :(

> (Mild sidenote: userspace may not need to distinguish between internal
> and external devices if it can assume that no internal PCI devices
> will show up after "echo 0 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers_autoprobe". But
> nevertheless...)

It can not assume that.

> b) Note that even with (a) in place, we still need a parameter that
> can ensure that drivers are not bound to external devices at boot,
> *before* userspace gets a chance to disable "drivers_autoprobe".

Why do you think you need that?  I kind of doubt you really want this,
but ick, if you really do, make it a policy decision that you bake into
the kernel as a build option, so that no one else has to use it :)

> https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/6/15/1453

Ick, please use lore.kernel.org, we don't control lkml.org and it's not
all that reliable.

> Is it OK to add such a parameter in device core?

You don't have internal/external/wherever in the driver core yet, so
don't start adding policy before you get that...

thanks,

greg k-h
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-27  5:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-26  0:27 [PATCH 1/2] pci: Add pci device even if the driver failed to attach Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-26  0:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] pci: Add parameter to disable attaching untrusted devices Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-26  4:46   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-26  7:52   ` Oliver O'Halloran
2020-06-26 14:17   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-26 18:53     ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-27  5:02       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2020-06-26 14:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: Add pci device even if the driver failed to attach Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-26 15:39 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-26 19:01   ` Rajat Jain via iommu

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