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From: "joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "jean-philippe@linaro.org" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"stefanha@gmail.com" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Wu, Hao" <hao.wu@intel.com>,
	"Tian, Jun J" <jun.j.tian@intel.com>
Subject: Re: (proposal) RE: [PATCH v7 00/16] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 15:03:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201103140318.GL22888@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201103132335.GO2620339@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 09:23:35AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Userspace needs fine grained control over the composition of the page
> table behind the PASID, 1:1 with the mm_struct is only one use case.

VFIO already offers an interface for that. It shouldn't be too
complicated to expand that for PASID-bound page-tables.

> Userspace needs to be able to handle IOMMU faults, apparently

Could be implemented by a fault-fd handed out by VFIO.

> The Intel guys had a bunch of other stuff too, looking through the new
> API they are proposing for vfio gives some flavour what they think is
> needed..

I really don't think that user-space should have to deal with details
like PASIDs or other IOMMU internals, unless absolutly necessary. This
is an OS we work on, and the idea behind an OS is to abstract the
hardware away.

Regards,

	Joerg
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-03 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-12  8:38 (proposal) RE: [PATCH v7 00/16] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs Tian, Kevin
2020-10-13  6:22 ` Jason Wang
2020-10-14  3:08   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-10-14 23:10     ` Alex Williamson
2020-10-15  7:02       ` Jason Wang
2020-10-15  6:52     ` Jason Wang
2020-10-15  7:58       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-10-15  8:40         ` Jason Wang
2020-10-15 10:14           ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-20  6:18             ` Jason Wang
2020-10-20  8:19               ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-20  9:19                 ` Jason Wang
2020-10-20  9:40                   ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-20 13:54                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-20 14:00                       ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-20 14:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-20 14:09                           ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-13 10:27 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-10-14  2:11   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-10-14  3:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2020-10-16 15:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-19  8:39     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-19 14:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-20 10:21         ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-20 14:02           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-20 14:19             ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-21  2:21               ` Jason Wang
2020-10-20 16:24             ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-20 17:03               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-20 19:51                 ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-20 19:55                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-20 20:08                     ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-20 20:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-20 20:27                         ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-21 11:48                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-21 17:51                             ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-21 18:24                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-21 20:03                                 ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-21 23:32                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-21 23:53                                     ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-22  2:55                               ` Jason Wang
2020-10-22  3:54                                 ` Liu, Yi L
2020-10-22  4:38                                   ` Jason Wang
2020-11-03  9:52 ` joro
2020-11-03 12:56   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-03 13:18     ` joro
2020-11-03 13:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-03 14:03         ` joro [this message]
2020-11-03 14:06           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-03 14:35             ` joro
2020-11-03 15:22               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-03 16:55                 ` joro
2020-11-03 17:48                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-03 19:14                     ` joro
2020-11-04 19:29                       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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