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From: "Sironi, Filippo via iommu" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>
To: "robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"sebott@amazon.de" <sebott@amazon.de>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: "Serebrin, Benjamin" <serebrin@amazon.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu/amd: I/O VA address limits
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 13:22:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a04dcca86bdccece6e0109c30fc0262e1bf8829.camel@amazon.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <271d67b2-482e-7a16-8fd7-1f1a6a4bdff2@arm.com>

On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 10:47 +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> 
> On 2020-07-17 10:20, Sebastian Ott via iommu wrote:
> > Hello Joerg,
> > 
> > On 2020-07-10 14:31, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:46:31AM +0200, Sebastian Ott wrote:
> > > > The IVRS ACPI table specifies maximum address sizes for I/O
> > > > virtual
> > > > addresses that can be handled by the IOMMUs in the system. Parse
> > > > that
> > > > data from the IVRS header to provide aperture information for
> > > > DMA
> > > > mappings and users of the iommu API.
> > > > 
> > > > Changes for V2:
> > > >   - use limits in iommu_setup_dma_ops()
> > > >   - rebased to current upstream
> > > > 
> > > > Sebastian Ott (3):
> > > >    iommu/amd: Parse supported address sizes from IVRS
> > > >    iommu/amd: Restrict aperture for domains to conform with IVRS
> > > >    iommu/amd: Actually enforce geometry aperture
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the changes. May I ask what the reason for those
> > > changes are?
> > > AFAIK all AMD IOMMU implementations (in hardware) support full
> > > 64bit
> > > address spaces, and the IVRS table might actually be wrong,
> > > limiting the
> > > address space in the worst case to only 32 bit.
> > 
> > It's not the IOMMU, but we've encountered devices that are capable
> > of
> > more than
> > 32- but less than 64- bit IOVA, and there's no way to express that
> > to
> > the IOVA
> > allocator in the PCIe spec. Our solution was to have our platforms
> > express an
> > IVRS entry that says the IOMMU is capable of 48-bit, which these
> > devices
> > can generate.
> > 48 bits is plenty of address space in this generation for the
> > application we have.
> 
> Hmm, for constraints of individual devices, it should really be their
> drivers' job to call dma_set_mask*() with the appropriate value in the
> first place rather than just assuming that 64 means anything >32. If
> it's a case where the device itself technically is 64-bit capable, but
> an upstream bridge is constraining it, then that limit can also be
> described either by dedicated firmware properties (e.g. ACPI _DMA) or
> with a quirk like via_no_dac().
> 
> Robin.

You cannot rely on the device driver only because the device driver
attach might be a generic one like vfio-pci, for instance, that doesn't
have any device specific knowledge.

Filippo





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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-05 14:56 [PATCH 0/3] iommu/amd: I/O VA address limits Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-06-05 14:56 ` [PATCH 1/3] iommu/amd: Parse supported address sizes from IVRS Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-06-05 14:56 ` [PATCH 2/3] iommu/amd: Restrict aperture for domains to conform with IVRS Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-06-05 14:56 ` [PATCH 3/3] iommu/amd: Actually enforce geometry aperture Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-06-30  9:30   ` Joerg Roedel
2020-06-30 22:46     ` [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu/amd: I/O VA address limits Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-06-30 22:46       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] iommu/amd: Parse supported address sizes from IVRS Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-06-30 22:46       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] iommu/amd: Restrict aperture for domains to conform with IVRS Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-06-30 22:46       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] iommu/amd: Actually enforce geometry aperture Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-07-10 12:31       ` [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu/amd: I/O VA address limits Joerg Roedel
2020-07-17  9:20         ` Sebastian Ott via iommu
2020-07-17  9:47           ` Robin Murphy
2020-07-17 13:22             ` Sironi, Filippo via iommu [this message]
2020-07-17 14:36               ` Robin Murphy
2020-07-17 15:15                 ` Sironi, Filippo via iommu
2020-07-22 12:19                   ` joro
2020-07-22 12:34                     ` Sironi, Filippo via iommu
2020-07-22 14:00                       ` joro
2020-06-24 16:09 ` [PATCH " Sebastian Ott via iommu

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