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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Lu Baolu' <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
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	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"ashok.raj@intel.com" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"alan.cox@intel.com" <alan.cox@intel.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"jacob.jun.pan@intel.com" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
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	<mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v8 7/7] iommu/vt-d: Use bounce buffer for untrusted devices
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:39:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4dee1bcef8474ebb95a7826a58bb72aa@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190830071718.16613-8-baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>

From: Lu Baolu
> Sent: 30 August 2019 08:17

> The Intel VT-d hardware uses paging for DMA remapping.
> The minimum mapped window is a page size. The device
> drivers may map buffers not filling the whole IOMMU
> window. This allows the device to access to possibly
> unrelated memory and a malicious device could exploit
> this to perform DMA attacks. To address this, the
> Intel IOMMU driver will use bounce pages for those
> buffers which don't fill whole IOMMU pages.

Won't this completely kill performance?

I'd expect to see something for dma_alloc_coherent() (etc)
that tries to give the driver page sized buffers.

Either that or the driver could allocate page sized buffers
even though it only passes fragments of these buffers to
the dma functions (to avoid excessive cache invalidates).

Since you have to trust the driver, why not actually trust it?

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-30 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-30  7:17 [PATCH v8 0/7] iommu: Bounce page for untrusted devices Lu Baolu
2019-08-30  7:17 ` [PATCH v8 1/7] PCI: Add dev_is_untrusted helper Lu Baolu
2019-08-30  7:17 ` [PATCH v8 2/7] swiotlb: Split size parameter to map/unmap APIs Lu Baolu
2019-08-30  7:17 ` [PATCH v8 3/7] swiotlb: Zero out bounce buffer for untrusted device Lu Baolu
2019-08-30  7:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-02  1:58     ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-02  7:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-30  7:17 ` [PATCH v8 4/7] iommu/vt-d: Check whether device requires bounce buffer Lu Baolu
2019-08-30  7:17 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] iommu/vt-d: Don't switch off swiotlb if bounce page is used Lu Baolu
2019-08-30  7:17 ` [PATCH v8 6/7] iommu/vt-d: Add trace events for device dma map/unmap Lu Baolu
2019-08-30 13:53   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-02  2:13     ` Lu Baolu
2019-08-30  7:17 ` [PATCH v8 7/7] iommu/vt-d: Use bounce buffer for untrusted devices Lu Baolu
2019-08-30 13:39   ` David Laight [this message]
2019-08-30 14:27     ` Robin Murphy
2019-09-02  7:15     ` Lu Baolu

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