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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] iommu: Permit modular builds of ARM SMMU[v3] drivers
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 13:29:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e2429ed-6b25-a452-5e4d-51a5195b872f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47418554-e7a7-f9f3-8852-60cecef3d5c7@huawei.com>

On 04/11/2019 12:16, John Garry wrote:
> On 01/11/2019 21:13, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 3:28 AM John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31/10/2019 23:34, Saravana Kannan via iommu wrote:
>>>> I looked into the iommu-map property and it shouldn't be too hard to
>>>> add support for it. Looks like we can simply hold off on probing the
>>>> root bridge device till all the iommus in its iommu-map are probed and
>>>> we should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm also unsure about distro vendors agreeing to a mandatory kernel
>>>>> parameter (of_devlink). Do you plan to eventually enable it by 
>>>>> default?
>>>>>
>>>>>> static const struct supplier_bindings of_supplier_bindings[] = {
>>>>>>           { .parse_prop = parse_clocks, },
>>>>>>           { .parse_prop = parse_interconnects, },
>>>>>>           { .parse_prop = parse_regulators, },
>>>>>> +        { .parse_prop = parse_iommus, },
>>>>>>           {},
>>>>>> };
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I plan to upstream this pretty soon, but I have other patches in
>>>>>> flight that touch the same file and I'm waiting for those to get
>>>>>> accepted. I also want to clean up the code a bit to reduce some
>>>>>> repetition before I add support for more bindings.
>>>>> I'm also wondering about ACPI support.
>>>> I'd love to add ACPI support too, but I have zero knowledge of ACPI.
>>>> I'd be happy to help anyone who wants to add ACPI support that allows
>>>> ACPI to add device links.
>>>
>>> If possible to add, that may be useful for remedying this:
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/9625faf4-48ef-2dd3-d82f-931d9cf26976@huawei.com/ 
>>>
>>
>> I'm happy that this change might fix that problem, but isn't the
>> problem reported in that thread more to do with child devices getting
>> added before the parent probes successfully? That doesn't make sense
>> to me. 
> 
> So the pcieport device and then the child device are added in the PCI 
> scan, but only some time later do the device drivers probe for these 
> devices; so it's not that the that pcieport driver creates the child 
> device.
> 
> The problem then occurs in that the ordering the of device driver probe 
> is such that we have this: pcieport probe + defer (as no IOMMU group 
> registered), SMMU probe (registers the IOMMU group), child device probe, 
> pcieport really probe.
> 
> Can't the piceport driver not add its child devices before it
>> probes successfully? Or more specifically, who adds the child devices
>> of the pcieport before the pcieport itself probes?
> 
> The devices are actually added in order pcieport, child device, but not 
> really probed in that same order, as above.

Right, in short the fundamental problem is that of_iommu_configure() now 
does the wrong thing. Deferring probe of the entire host bridge/root 
complex based on "iommu-map" would indeed happen to solve the problem by 
brute force, I think, but could lead to a dependency cycle for PCI-based 
IOMMUs as Jean points out. I hope to have time this week to work a bit 
more on pulling of_iommu_configure() apart to fix it properly, after 
which of_devlink *should* only have to worry about the child devices 
themselves...

Robin.

> I'll add you to that thread if you want to discuss further.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-04 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-30 14:51 [PATCH 0/7] iommu: Permit modular builds of ARM SMMU[v3] drivers Will Deacon
2019-10-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] drivers/iommu: Export core IOMMU API symbols to permit modular drivers Will Deacon
2019-10-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 2/7] iommu/of: Request ACS from the PCI core when configuring IOMMU linkage Will Deacon
2019-10-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 3/7] PCI: Export pci_ats_disabled() as a GPL symbol to modules Will Deacon
2019-10-30 20:30   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 4/7] Revert "iommu/arm-smmu: Make arm-smmu-v3 explicitly non-modular" Will Deacon
2019-10-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 5/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow building as a module Will Deacon
2019-10-30 19:31   ` Joerg Roedel
2019-10-31 15:42     ` Will Deacon
2019-11-04 19:15       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-11-08 14:54         ` Will Deacon
2019-11-05 12:15       ` Joerg Roedel
2019-11-08 11:03         ` Will Deacon
2019-10-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 6/7] Revert "iommu/arm-smmu: Make arm-smmu explicitly non-modular" Will Deacon
2019-10-30 23:09   ` Jordan Crouse
2019-10-31 12:03     ` Will Deacon
2019-10-31 15:32       ` Jordan Crouse
2019-10-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 7/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Allow building as a module Will Deacon
2019-10-30 15:22   ` Rob Herring
2019-10-30 15:26     ` Will Deacon
2019-10-30 15:33     ` Robin Murphy
2019-11-04 19:34   ` Isaac J. Manjarres
2019-11-07 12:48     ` Will Deacon
2019-10-30 15:35 ` [PATCH 0/7] iommu: Permit modular builds of ARM SMMU[v3] drivers Robin Murphy
2019-10-30 15:54   ` Will Deacon
2019-10-31  0:57     ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2019-10-31 19:37       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-10-31 23:34         ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2019-11-01 10:27           ` John Garry
2019-11-01 21:13             ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2019-11-04 12:16               ` John Garry
2019-11-04 13:29                 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2019-11-07  6:11                   ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2019-11-07  9:13                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-11-07  6:02                 ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2019-11-01 11:41           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-11-01 12:28             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-11-01 21:26               ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2019-11-04 11:43                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-11-07  5:55                   ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2019-11-01 17:21         ` Will Deacon
2019-11-04  7:54           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-11-07  6:16       ` Saravana Kannan via iommu

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