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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
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	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] of/fdt: Update zone_dma_bits when running in bcm2711
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:36:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXEWeqGVr=QV7zQ+dXBK=t_Lh+W9q1+kLLdBw8=Pj798Ng@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201009171051.GL23638@gaia>

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 19:10, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 06:23:06PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 17:24, Lorenzo Pieralisi
> > <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com> wrote:
> > > We can move this check to IORT code and call it from arm64 if it
> > > can be made to work.
> >
> > Finding the smallest value in the IORT, and assigning it to
> > zone_dma_bits if it is < 32 should be easy. But as I understand it,
> > having these separate DMA and DMA32 zones is what breaks kdump, no? So
> > how is this going to fix the underlying issue?
>
> If zone_dma_bits is 32, ZONE_DMA32 disappears into ZONE_DMA (GFP_DMA32
> allocations fall back to ZONE_DMA).
>
> kdump wants DMA-able memory and, without a 30-bit ZONE_DMA, that would
> be the bottom 32-bit. With the introduction of ZONE_DMA, this suddenly
> became 1GB. We could change kdump to allocate ZONE_DMA32 but this one
> may also be small as it lost 1GB to ZONE_DMA. However, the kdump kernel
> would need to be rebuilt without ZONE_DMA since it won't have any. IIRC
> (it's been a while since I looked), the kdump allocation couldn't span
> multiple zones.
>
> In a separate thread, we try to fix kdump to use allocations above 4G as
> a fallback but this only fixes platforms with enough RAM (and maybe it's
> only those platforms that care about kdump).
>

One thing that strikes me as odd is that we are applying the same
shifting logic to ZONE_DMA as we are applying to ZONE_DMA32, i.e., if
DRAM starts outside of the zone, it is shifted upwards.

On a typical ARM box, this gives me

[    0.000000] Zone ranges:
[    0.000000]   DMA      [mem 0x0000000080000000-0x00000000bfffffff]
[    0.000000]   DMA32    [mem 0x00000000c0000000-0x00000000ffffffff]
[    0.000000]   Normal   [mem 0x0000000100000000-0x0000000fffffffff]

i.e., the 30-bit addressable range has bit 31 set, which is weird.

I wonder if it wouldn't be better (and less problematic in the general
case) to drop this logic for ZONE_DMA, and simply let it remain empty
unless there is really some memory there.
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-10 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-01 16:17 [PATCH 0/4] arm64: Default to 32-bit wide ZONE_DMA Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-01 16:17 ` [PATCH 1/4] of/fdt: Update zone_dma_bits when running in bcm2711 Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-01 17:15   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-01 17:23     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-01 17:31       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-01 20:02         ` Rob Herring
2020-10-02 11:55         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-08 10:05           ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-08 10:13             ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-08 19:43               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-09  3:59                 ` Jeremy Linton
2020-10-09  8:37                   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-09  7:10             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-09  7:37               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-09  8:36                 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-09  9:13                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-09 13:33                     ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-09 15:24                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-10-09 16:23                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-09 17:10                         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-10 10:36                           ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2020-10-10 10:53                             ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-10 12:38                               ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-12  6:47                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-12  8:47                             ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-02  9:05   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-01 16:17 ` [PATCH 2/4] dma-direct: Turn zone_dma_bits default value into a define Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-01 16:17 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: Default to 32-bit ZONE_DMA Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-01 17:19   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-01 16:17 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: Update DMA zones description Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-10-01 17:19   ` Catalin Marinas

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