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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:26:33AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

> And perhaps more constructively, we do need to prioritize address and data
> dependencies over control dependencies.  For one thing, there are a lot
> more address/data dependencies in existing code than there are control
> dependencies, and (sadly, perhaps more importantly) there are a lot more
> people who are convinced that address/data dependencies are important.

If they do not consider their Linux OS running correctly :-)

> For another (admittedly more theoretical) thing, the OOTA scenarios
> stemming from control dependencies are a lot less annoying than those
> from address/data dependencies.
> 
> And address/data dependencies are as far as I know vulnerable to things
> like conditional-move instructions that can cause problems for control
> dependencies.
> 
> Nevertheless, yes, control dependencies also need attention.

Today I added one more \o/