From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FF5C433E1 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EA920578 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728951AbgHPR45 (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:56:57 -0400 Received: from smtprelay0152.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.152]:55694 "EHLO smtprelay.hostedemail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726855AbgHPR45 (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:56:57 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (clb03-v110.bra.tucows.net [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180E0180A9F31; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:56:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 6A6F6540706572636865732E636F6D X-HE-Tag: drop82_3e0ba4527010 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1614 Received: from XPS-9350.home (unknown [47.151.133.149]) (Authenticated sender: joe@perches.com) by omf07.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <61f8da080e5fac1bc23cdd68c43f199029c0a788.camel@perches.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: Yes. Finally remove '-Wdeclaration-after-statement' From: Joe Perches To: Michael Witten , Masahiro Yamada , Michal Marek Cc: Cong Wang , Johannes Weiner , Sam Ravnborg , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 10:56:53 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kbuild-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 16:35 +0000, Michael Witten wrote: > Requiring every declaration to be at the top of a block is an > antiquated, vestigial naivete from a time when C was just a > glorified abstraction over conventional patterns in assembly > programming. I rather prefer block declarations instead of sprinkling declarations around with code. > We are not just programming anymore. We are now encoding our > very thoughts, and thus we need this expressiveness in order > to capture those thoughts with sufficient clarity. So how does this removal have anything to do with expressiveness and clarity?