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From: Boris Kolpackov <boris@codesynthesis.com>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: "James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Casey Schaufler" <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	"Nicolas Iooss" <nicolas.iooss@m4x.org>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	"Mickaël Salaün" <mic@linux.microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/3] kconfig: Ask user if string needs to be changed when dependency changed
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 16:13:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <boris.20210215155804@codesynthesis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210215122513.1773897-3-mic@digikod.net>

Mickaël Salaün <mic@digikod.net> writes:

> Content of string configuration may depend on related kernel
> configurations.  Modify oldconfig and syncconfig to inform users about
> possible required configuration update and give them the opportunity to
> update it:
> * if dependencies of this string has changed (e.g. enabled or disabled),
> * and if the current value of this string is different than the (new)
>   default one.

I have a number of questions:

1. Why is a change in dependencies necessarily means that the dependent's
   value must be revised? Here is a specific example (to make sure we are
   talking about the same things):

   config FOO
     string "Foo value"
     depends on BAR || BAZ

   Why, in the general case, when I disable BAR and enable BAZ I must
   also revise the value of FOO?

2. How do you know that what's in the user's .config is the old default
   and in Kconfig -- the new default value? What if in the user's .config
   is a custom value (with which the user is perfectly happy) and what's
   in Kconfig is the old default (which the user has already seen)?

3. Why limit this to strings only?


> This is particularly relevant for CONFIG_LSM which contains a list of
> LSMs enabled at boot, but users will not have a chance to update this
> list with a make oldconfig.

If my understanding above is correct, this feels like it's been purpose-
made to address whatever issue you are having with CONFIG_LSM. If so,
what about potential numerous other options that don't have this issue
but will now be presented to the user for modification?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-15 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 12:25 [PATCH v1 0/3] Kconfig oldconfig string update Mickaël Salaün
2021-02-15 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] kconfig: Remove duplicate call to sym_get_string_value() Mickaël Salaün
2021-02-15 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] kconfig: Ask user if string needs to be changed when dependency changed Mickaël Salaün
2021-02-15 14:13   ` Boris Kolpackov [this message]
2021-02-15 15:40     ` Mickaël Salaün
2021-02-15 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] security: Add LSMs dependencies to CONFIG_LSM Mickaël Salaün
2021-02-15 17:26   ` kernel test robot

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