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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
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Subject: Re: [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 00/35] Move all PCIBIOS* definitions into arch/x86
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 13:45:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200714184550.GA397277@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a3NWSZw6678k1O2eJ6-c5GuW7484PRvEzU9MEPPrCD-yw@mail.gmail.com>

[trimmed the cc list; it's still too large but maybe arch folks care]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 05:08:10PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:22 PM Saheed O. Bolarinwa
> <refactormyself@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This goal of these series is to move the definition of *all*
> > PCIBIOS* from include/linux/pci.h to arch/x86 and limit their use
> > within there.  All other tree specific definition will be left for
> > intact. Maybe they can be renamed.
> >
> > PCIBIOS* is an x86 concept as defined by the PCI spec. The
> > returned error codes of PCIBIOS* are positive values and this
> > introduces some complexities which other archs need not incur.
> 
> I think the intention is good, but I find the series in its current
> form very hard to review, in particular the way you touch some
> functions three times with trivial changes. Instead of
> 
> 1) replace PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL with 0
> 2) drop pointless 0-comparison
> 3) reformat whitespace
> 
> I would suggest to combine the first two steps into one patch per
> subsystem and drop the third step.

I agree.  BUT please don't just run out and post new patches to do
this.  Let's talk about Arnd's further ideas below first.

> ...
> Maybe the work can be split up differently, with a similar end
> result but fewer and easier reviewed patches. The way I'd look at
> the problem, there are three main areas that can be dealt with one
> at a time:
> 
> a) callers of the high-level config space accessors
>    pci_{write,read}_config_{byte,word,dword}, mostly in device
>    drivers.
> b) low-level implementation of the config space accessors
>     through struct pci_ops
> c) all other occurrences of these constants
> 
> Starting with a), my first question is whether any high-level
> drivers even need to care about errors from these functions. I see
> 4913 callers that ignore the return code, and 576 that actually
> check it, and almost none care about the specific error (as you
> found as well). Unless we conclude that most PCI drivers are wrong,
> could we just change the return type to 'void' and assume they never
> fail for valid arguments on a valid pci_device* ?

I really like this idea.

pci_write_config_*() has one return value, and only 100ish of 2500
callers check for errors.  It's sometimes possible for config
accessors to detect PCI errors and return failure, e.g., device was
removed or didn't respond, but most of them don't, and detecting these
errors is not really that valuable.

pci_read_config_*() is much more interesting because it returns two
things, the function return value and the value read from the PCI
device, and it's complicated to check both. 

Again it's sometimes possible for config read accessors to detect PCI
errors, but in most cases a PCI error means the accessor returns
success and the value from PCI is ~0.

Checking the function return value catches programming errors (bad
alignment, etc) but misses most of the interesting errors (device was
unplugged or reported a PCI error).

Checking the value returned from PCI is tricky because ~0 is a valid
value for some config registers, and only the driver knows for sure.
If the driver knows that ~0 is a possible value, it would have to do
something else, e.g., another config read of a register that *cannot*
be ~0, to see whether it's really an error.

I suspect that if we had a single value to look at it would be easier
to get right.  Error checking with current interface would look like
this:

  err = pci_read_config_word(dev, addr, &val);
  if (err)
    return -EINVAL;

  if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val)) {
    /* if driver knows ~0 is invalid */
    return -EINVAL;

    /* if ~0 is potentially a valid value */
    err = pci_read_config_word(dev, PCI_VENDOR_ID, &val2);
    if (err)
      return -EINVAL;

    if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val2))
      return -EINVAL;
  }

Error checking with a possible interface that returned only a single
value could look like this:

  val = pci_config_read_word(dev, addr);
  if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val)) {
    /* if driver knows ~0 is invalid */
    return -EINVAL;

    /* if ~0 is potentially a valid value */
    val2 = pci_config_read_word(dev, PCI_VENDOR_ID);
    if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val2))
      return -EINVAL;
  }

Am I understanding you correctly?

> For b), it might be nice to also change other aspects of the
> interface, e.g. passing a pci_host_bridge pointer plus bus number
> instead of a pci_bus pointer, or having the callback in the
> pci_host_bridge structure.

I like this idea a lot, too.  I think the fact that
pci_bus_read_config_word() requires a pci_bus * complicates things in
a few places.

I think it's completely separate, as you say, and we should defer it
for now because even part a) is a lot of work.  I added it to my list
of possible future projects.

Bjorn
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-14 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13 12:22 [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 00/35] Move all PCIBIOS* definitions into arch/x86 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 01/35] xen-pciback: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 02/35] ssb: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 17:16   ` Larry Finger
2020-07-13 19:13     ` Saheed Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 18:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-13 18:35       ` Larry Finger
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 03/35] scsi: ipr: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 04/35] scsi: ipr: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 05/35] PCI: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 06/35] PCI: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 13:59   ` Gustavo Pimentel
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 07/35] PCI: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 08/35] PCI: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 09/35] nvme-pci: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 16:42   ` Rajashekar, Revanth
2020-07-13 18:24     ` Saheed Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 10/35] nvme-pci: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 11/35] r8169: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 12/35] r8169: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 13:45   ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-07-13 13:09     ` Saheed Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 13/35] cxl: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 14/35] i2c/busses: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-17 14:58   ` Jean Delvare
2020-07-18 19:05     ` Saheed Bolarinwa
2020-07-22 11:06       ` Wolfram Sang
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 15/35] i2c/busses: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-17 15:11   ` Jean Delvare
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 16/35] hwmon: (sis5595) Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-14  5:02   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 17/35] hwmon: (sis5595) Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-14  5:04   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 18/35] bcma: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 19/35] atm: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 20/35] atm: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 21/35] atm: Fix Style ERROR- assignment in if condition Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 22/35] unicore32: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 23/35] sparc/PCI: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 24/35] sh: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-20 21:41   ` Rich Felker
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 25/35] sh: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 26/35] powerpc: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 27/35] powerpc: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 28/35] mips: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 29/35] mips: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 30/35] microblaze: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 31/35] m68k: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 32/35] arm/PCI: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 33/35] arm/PCI: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 34/35] PCI: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 35/35] alpha: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 15:08 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 00/35] Move all PCIBIOS* definitions into arch/x86 Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-14 18:45   ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2020-07-14 21:02     ` Kjetil Oftedal
2020-07-15  2:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-14 22:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-14 23:46       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-15  2:19         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-15  6:47         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-15 14:24           ` David Laight
2020-07-15 22:01             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-16  8:18               ` David Laight
2020-07-15 22:26           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-15  4:18       ` Oliver O'Halloran
2020-07-15 14:38         ` David Laight
2020-07-15 22:12           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-15 22:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-16  8:07               ` David Laight
2020-07-14 23:14     ` Rob Herring
2020-07-15  2:12     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-13 22:01 ` Bjorn Helgaas

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