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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Alexey Alexandrov <aalexand@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf/core: Emit PERF_RECORD_LOST for pinned events
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 10:42:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM9d7cg_Agin3C0iuigDzQjZEZNtVXPe9z9eaDZsdyNoVa_wxA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YAWFkU+roDyMCgla@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 9:56 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 08:44:20PM +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 7:11 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:43:23PM +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > > > As of now we silently ignore pinned events when it's failed to be
> > > > scheduled and make it error state not try to schedule it again.
> > > > That means we won't get any samples for the event.
> > > >
> > > > But there's no way for users to notice and respond to it.  Let's
> > > > emit a lost event with a new misc bit to indicate this situation.
> > >
> > > Users should get a read(2) error IIRC, does that not work?
> >
> > Ah, right.  maybe I'm too specific to perf record's perspective.
> >
> > In perf record, it doesn't use read(2) so I thought it should
> > have the information in the stream of sample data.
>
> perf-record could of course do a read() at the end, to detect this.

OK, will add that.

>
> I don't think I object to having an even in the stream, but your LOST
> event is unfortunate in that it itself can get lost when there's no
> space in the buffer (which arguably is unlikely, but still).
>
> So from that point of view, I think overloading LOST is not so very nice
> for this.

But anything can get lost in case of no space.
Do you want to use something other than the LOST event?

Thanks,
Namhyung

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-19  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-18  3:43 [PATCH] perf/core: Emit PERF_RECORD_LOST for pinned events Namhyung Kim
2021-01-18 10:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-18 11:44   ` Namhyung Kim
2021-01-18 12:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-19  1:42       ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2021-01-19  2:46         ` Andi Kleen
2021-01-19  3:11           ` Namhyung Kim
2021-01-20 11:53             ` Namhyung Kim
2021-01-20 12:16               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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