From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759988AbYB2SP1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:15:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751932AbYB2SPQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:15:16 -0500 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.13]:51207 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751011AbYB2SPO (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:15:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:14:13 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Peter Zijlstra cc: Michael Kerrisk , aaw , Andrew Morton , michael.kerrisk@gmail.com, carlos@codesourcery.com, Alan Cox , linux-kernel , drepper@redhat.com, mtk.manpages@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] RLIMIT_ARG_MAX In-Reply-To: <1204307756.6243.121.camel@lappy> Message-ID: References: <1204119455.6242.403.camel@lappy> <1204305244.6243.111.camel@lappy> <1204307756.6243.121.camel@lappy> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LFD 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > Well, I agree with that point. It just that apparently POSIX does not. > According to Michael POSIX does not consider the arg+env array part of > the stack proper. I don't think that's true. POSIX has always been guided on "what you can depend on", not "we make up new features". And if that has changed, then it's a problem for POSIX, not for Linux. IOW, I think somebody is either reading the standard wrong, or the standard is not worth reading. Linus