linux-kselftest.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
To: Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] mm/hmm/test: add self tests for HMM
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:42:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191118184238.GM3873@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <912f9f23-fa2a-1dd7-3f91-f7175094c2e2@nvidia.com>

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:32:18AM -0800, Ralph Campbell wrote:
> 
> On 11/15/19 6:06 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 03:06:05PM -0800, Ralph Campbell wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 11/13/19 5:51 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:45:52PM +0000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > > > Well, it would mean registering for the whole process address space.
> > > > > > I'll give it a try.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm not sure it makes much sense that this testing is essentially
> > > > > modeled after nouveau's usage which is very strange compared to the
> > > > > other drivers.
> > > > 
> > > > Which means we really should make the test cases fit the proper usage.
> > > > Maybe defer the tests for 5.5 and just merge the first patch for now?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I think this a good point to discuss.
> > > Some devices will want to register for all changes to the process address
> > > space because there is no requirement to preregister regions that the
> > > device can access verses devices like InfiniBand where a range of addresses
> > > have to be registered before the device can access those addresses.
> > 
> > But this is a very bad idea to register and do HW actions for ranges
> > that can't possibly have any pages registered. It slows down the
> > entire application
> > 
> > I think the ODP approach might be saner, when it mirrors the entire
> > address space it chops it up into VA chunks, and once a page is
> > registered on the HW the VA chunk goes into the interval tree.
> > 
> > Presumably the GPU also has some kind of page table tree and you could
> > set one of the levels as the VA interval when there are populated children
> > 
> > Jason
> 
> I wasn't suggesting that HW invalidates happen in two places.
> I'm suggesting the two styles of invalidates can work together.
> For example, what if a driver calls mmu_notifier_register(mn, mm)
> to register for address space wide invalidations, then some time
> later there is a device page table fault and the driver calls
> mmu_range_notifier_insert() but with a NULL ops.invalidate.

I'm saying drivers shouldn't do that, it is a basically a hack that it
works at all.

> The global invalidate() callback would get the device lock and
> call into mm to update the sequence number of any affected ranges
> instead of having a range invalidate callback, and then do the HW
> invalidations.

No, I just finished eliminating all the range iteration code in the
drivers - and you can't update the sequence number from any place
other than the interval invalidation callback anyhow.

Jason 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-18 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-04 22:21 [PATCH v4 0/2] HMM tests and minor fixes Ralph Campbell
2019-11-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm/hmm: make full use of walk_page_range() Ralph Campbell
2019-11-12 15:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-12 22:21     ` Ralph Campbell
2019-11-14 14:24   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mm/hmm/test: add self tests for HMM Ralph Campbell
2019-11-12 15:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-12 21:51     ` Ralph Campbell
2019-11-12 23:45       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-13 13:51         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-14 23:06           ` Ralph Campbell
2019-11-15 14:06             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-18 18:32               ` Ralph Campbell
2019-11-18 18:42                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-11-13  0:08       ` Andrew Morton

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20191118184238.GM3873@mellanox.com \
    --to=jgg@mellanox.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=hch@lst.de \
    --cc=jglisse@redhat.com \
    --cc=jhubbard@nvidia.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rcampbell@nvidia.com \
    --cc=shuah@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).