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From: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	rafael@kernel.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, joel@joelfernandes.org,
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	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	lenb@kernel.org, tkjos@android.com, arnd@arndb.de, bp@alien8.de,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, mchehab@kernel.org,
	maco@android.com, christian@brauner.io,
	linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, tony.luck@intel.com,
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	arve@android.com, james.morse@arm.com, hridya@google.com,
	johannes@sipsolutions.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/11] Introduce Simple atomic counters
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 21:49:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201110184903.GG29398@kadam> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202010161541.6DD2D1E@keescook>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 03:51:25PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:53:13PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > That's like saying: "I'm too lazy to track what I've looked at already".
> > You're basically proposing to graffiti "Kees was here -- 16/10/2020" all
> > over the kernel. Just so you can see where you still need to go.
> > 
> > It says the code was (assuming your audit was correct) good at that
> > date, but has no guarantees for any moment after that.
> 
> That kind of bit-rot marking is exactly what I would like to avoid: just
> putting a comment in is pointless. Making the expectations of the usage
> become _enforced_ is the goal. And having it enforced by the _compiler_
> is key. Just adding a meaningless attribute that a static checker
> will notice some time and hope people fix them doesn't scale either
> (just look at how many sparse warnings there are).

Most Sparse warnings are false positives.  People do actually fix the
ones which matter.

I think this patchset could be useful.  I'm working on a refcounting
check for Smatch.  I want to warn about when we forget to drop a
reference on an error path.  Right now I just assume that anything with
"error", "drop" or "->stats->" in the name is just a counter.

regards,
dan carpenter


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-10 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-09 15:55 [PATCH v3 00/11] Introduce Simple atomic counters Shuah Khan
2020-10-09 15:55 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] selftests:lib:test_counters: add new test for counters Shuah Khan
2020-10-09 18:02   ` Kees Cook
2020-10-09 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Introduce Simple atomic counters Kees Cook
2020-10-09 19:02   ` Shuah Khan
2020-10-09 19:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-09 20:45   ` Kees Cook
2020-10-10 11:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-14  2:12       ` Shuah Khan
2020-10-14  9:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-14 23:31           ` Kees Cook
2020-10-16 10:53             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-16 22:51               ` Kees Cook
2020-11-10 18:49                 ` Dan Carpenter [this message]
2020-10-16 21:56             ` Shuah Khan

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