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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: "Moessbauer, Felix" <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 19:15:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211110181558.GB51149@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR10MB4869C14EAE01B87C0037BF6A89939@AM9PR10MB4869.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 03:21:54PM +0000, "Moessbauer, Felix" <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com> wrote:
> 2. Threads can be started on non-rt CPUs and then bound to a specific rt CPU.
> This binding can be specified before thread creation via pthread_create.
> By that, you can make sure that at no point in time a thread has a
> "forbidden" CPU in its affinities.

It should boil down to some clone$version(2) and sched_setaffinity(2)
calls, so strictly speaking even with pthread_create(3) the thread is
shortly running with the parent's affinity.

> With cgroup2, you cannot guarantee the second aspect, as thread
> creation and moving to a cgroup is not an atomic operation.

As suggested by others, CLONE_INTO_CGROUP (into cpuset cgroup) can
actually "hide" the migration into the clone3() call.

> At creation time, you cannot set the final affinity mask (as you
> create it in the non-rt group and there the CPU is not in the
> cpuset.cpus).
> Once you move the thread to the rt cgroup, it has a default mask and
> by that can be executed on other rt cores.

Good point. Perhaps you could work this around by having another level
of (non-root partition) cpuset cgroups for individual CPUs? (Maybe
there's more clever approach, this is just first to come into my mind.)

Michal

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-10 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18 14:36 [PATCH v8 0/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] cgroup/cpuset: Allow no-task partition to have empty cpuset.cpus.effective Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] cgroup/cpuset: Refining features and constraints of a partition Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add a new isolated cpus.partition type Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] cgroup/cpuset: Show invalid partition reason string Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst Waiman Long
2021-11-15 19:31   ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-15 20:11     ` Tejun Heo
2021-11-15 21:27       ` Waiman Long
2021-11-15 21:10     ` Waiman Long
2021-11-16 17:54       ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-30 15:35         ` Waiman Long
2021-11-30 17:11           ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01  3:56             ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 14:13               ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-01 14:56                 ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 16:39                   ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01 17:49                     ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 14:26               ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 16:46               ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01 18:05                 ` Waiman Long
2021-12-02  1:28                   ` Waiman Long
2021-12-03 18:25                     ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-03 19:27                       ` Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] kselftest/cgroup: Add cpuset v2 partition root state test Waiman Long
2021-10-27 23:05 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-11-10 11:13 ` Felix Moessbauer
2021-11-10 13:21   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 13:56   ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 15:21     ` Moessbauer, Felix
2021-11-10 16:10       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 16:14         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 16:15         ` Jan Kiszka
2021-11-10 17:29           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 18:30             ` Waiman Long
2021-11-10 17:52           ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 18:04             ` Jan Kiszka
2021-11-10 18:15       ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2021-11-10 15:20   ` Waiman Long

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