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From: shuah <shuah@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Hector Marco-Gisbert <hecmargi@upv.es>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	x86@kernel.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	shuah <shuah@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] selftests/exec: Add READ_IMPLIES_EXEC tests
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 17:02:27 -0700
Message-ID: <36e45314-b672-b211-72c5-eef1d48984c0@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202002111549.CF18B7B3B@keescook>

On 2/11/20 4:54 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 02:06:53PM -0700, shuah wrote:
>> On 2/11/20 12:25 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:11:21AM -0700, shuah wrote:
>>>> On 2/10/20 12:30 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
>>>>> In order to check the matrix of possible states for handling
>>>>> READ_IMPLIES_EXEC across native, compat, and the state of PT_GNU_STACK,
>>>>> add tests for these execution conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
>>>>
>>>> No issues for this to go through tip.
>>>>
>>>> A few problems to fix first. This fails to compile when 32-bit libraries
>>>> aren't installed. It should fail the 32-bit part and run other checks.
>>>
>>> Do you mean the Makefile should detect the missing compat build deps and
>>> avoid building them? Testing compat is pretty important to this test, so
>>> it seems like missing the build deps causing the build to fail is the
>>> correct action here. This is likely true for the x86/ selftests too.
>>>
>>> What would you like this to do?
>>>
>>
>> selftests/x86 does this already and runs the dependency check in
>> x86/Makefile.
>>
>>
>> check_cc.sh:# check_cc.sh - Helper to test userspace compilation support
>> Makefile:CAN_BUILD_I386 := $(shell ./check_cc.sh $(CC)
>> trivial_32bit_program.c -m32)
>> Makefile:CAN_BUILD_X86_64 := $(shell ./check_cc.sh $(CC)
>> trivial_64bit_program.c)
>> Makefile:CAN_BUILD_WITH_NOPIE := $(shell ./check_cc.sh $(CC)
>> trivial_program.c -no-pie)
>>
>> Take a look and see if you can leverage this.
> 
> I did before, and it can certainly be done, but their stuff is somewhat
> specific to x86_64/ia32. I'm looking at supporting _all_ compat for any
> 64-bit architecture. I can certainly write some similar build tooling,
> but the question I have for you is one of coverage:
> 
> If a builder is 64-bit, it needs to be able to produce 32-bit compat
> binaries for testing, otherwise the test is incomplete. (i.e. the tests
> will only be able to test native behavior and not compat). This doesn't
> seem like an "XFAIL" situation to me, and it doesn't seem right to
> silently pass. It seems like the build should explicitly fail because
> the needed prerequisites are missing. Do you instead want me to just
> have it skip building the compat binaries if it can't build them?
> 

Can we do the following:


Build and run tests thatc an be built.
Skip build and warn that test coverage is incomplete for compat
with a strong recommendation on installing 32-bit libraries with
some instructions on how to if applicable.

thanks,
-- Shuah

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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-10 19:30 [PATCH v3 0/7] binfmt_elf: Update READ_IMPLIES_EXEC logic for modern CPUs Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] x86/elf: Add table to document READ_IMPLIES_EXEC Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] x86/elf: Split READ_IMPLIES_EXEC from executable GNU_STACK Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] x86/elf: Disable automatic READ_IMPLIES_EXEC for 64-bit address spaces Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] arm32/64, elf: Add tables to document READ_IMPLIES_EXEC Kees Cook
2020-02-12  9:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] arm32/64, elf: Split READ_IMPLIES_EXEC from executable GNU_STACK Kees Cook
2020-02-12  9:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] arm64, elf: Disable automatic READ_IMPLIES_EXEC for 64-bit address spaces Kees Cook
2020-02-12  9:28   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] selftests/exec: Add READ_IMPLIES_EXEC tests Kees Cook
2020-02-11 18:11   ` shuah
2020-02-11 19:25     ` Kees Cook
2020-02-11 21:06       ` shuah
2020-02-11 23:54         ` Kees Cook
2020-02-12  0:02           ` shuah [this message]
2020-02-11 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] binfmt_elf: Update READ_IMPLIES_EXEC logic for modern CPUs Jason Gunthorpe

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