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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: "Christopherson,, Sean" <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Zhong, Yang" <yang.zhong@intel.com>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v4 00/21] AMX Support in KVM
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 00:10:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB5276900E6C273485C59B65608C4B9@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YdSX6NANtx0SXjfK@google.com>

> From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 2:55 AM
> 
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > On 12/29/21 14:13, Yang Zhong wrote:
> > > Highly appreciate for your review. This version mostly addressed the
> comments
> > > from Sean. Most comments are adopted except three which are not
> closed and
> > > need more discussions:
> > >
> > >    - Move the entire xfd write emulation code to x86.c. Doing so requires
> > >      introducing a new kvm_x86_ops callback to disable msr write bitmap.
> > >      According to Paolo's earlier comment he prefers to handle it in vmx.c.
> >
> > Yes, I do.
> 
> No objection, my comments were prior to seeing the patches that
> manipulated the
> bitmap, e.g. in the earlier patches, having anything in vmx.c is unnecessary.
> 
> > >    - Directly check msr_bitmap in update_exception_bitmap() (for
> > >      trapping #NM) and vcpu_enter_guest() (for syncing guest xfd after
> > >      vm-exit) instead of introducing an extra flag in the last patch. However,
> > >      doing so requires another new kvm_x86_ops callback for checking
> > >      msr_bitmap since vcpu_enter_guest() is x86 common code. Having an
> > >      extra flag sounds simpler here (at least for the initial AMX support).
> > >      It does penalize nested guest with one xfd sync per exit, but it's not
> > >      worse than a normal guest which initializes xfd but doesn't run
> > >      AMX applications at all. Those could be improved afterwards.
> >
> > The thing to do here would be to move
> > MAX_POSSIBLE_PASSTHROUGH_MSRS/MAX_DIRECT_ACCESS_MSRS from
> VMX/SVM to core
> > code.  For now we can keep the flag.

sounds good.

> >
> > >    - Disable #NM trap for nested guest. This version still chooses to always
> > >      trap #NM (regardless in L1 or L2) as long as xfd write interception is
> disabled.
> > >      In reality #NM is rare if nested guest doesn't intend to run AMX
> applications
> > >      and always-trap is safer than dynamic trap for the basic support in
> case
> > >      of any oversight here.
> >
> > Sean was justifying this with lack of support for nested AMX, but I'm not
> > sure actually what is missing at all.  That is, an L1 hypervisor could
> > expose AMX to L2, and then an L2->L0->L2 exit/reentry would have to trap
> > #NM.  Otherwise it would miss an XFD_ERR update.
> 
> Ya, I was assuming there was something L0 needed to do to supported
> nested AMX,
> but as Paolo pointed out there are no VMCS bits, so L0 just needs to correctly
> handle #NM and MSR interceptions according to vmcs12.

btw Sean still made a good point on exception queuing part. Current 
version blindly queues a #NM even when L1 wants to intercept #NM
itself. We had that fixed internally and will send out a new version
very soon.

Thanks
Kevin

      reply	other threads:[~2022-01-05  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-29 13:13 [PATCH v4 00/21] AMX Support in KVM Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 01/21] x86/fpu: Extend fpu_xstate_prctl() with guest permissions Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 02/21] x86/fpu: Prepare guest FPU for dynamically enabled FPU features Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 03/21] kvm: x86: Fix xstate_required_size() to follow XSTATE alignment rule Yang Zhong
2022-01-04 19:54   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 04/21] kvm: x86: Exclude unpermitted xfeatures at KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 05/21] x86/fpu: Make XFD initialization in __fpstate_reset() a function argument Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 06/21] x86/fpu: Add guest support to xfd_enable_feature() Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 07/21] x86/fpu: Provide fpu_update_guest_perm_features() for guest Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 08/21] kvm: x86: Check and enable permitted dynamic xfeatures at KVM_SET_CPUID2 Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 16:55   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-30  2:28     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 09/21] x86/fpu: Provide fpu_update_guest_xfd() for IA32_XFD emulation Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 10/21] kvm: x86: Add emulation for IA32_XFD Yang Zhong
2022-01-04 19:32   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  0:22     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 11/21] x86/fpu: Prepare xfd_err in struct fpu_guest Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 12/21] kvm: x86: Intercept #NM for saving IA32_XFD_ERR Yang Zhong
2022-01-04 20:01   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  0:27     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 13/21] kvm: x86: Emulate IA32_XFD_ERR for guest Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 14/21] kvm: x86: Disable RDMSR interception of IA32_XFD_ERR Yang Zhong
2022-01-04 19:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  0:23     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 15/21] kvm: x86: Add XCR0 support for Intel AMX Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 16/21] kvm: x86: Add CPUID " Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 17/21] x86/fpu: Add uabi_size to guest_fpu Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 18/21] kvm: x86: Add support for getting/setting expanded xstate buffer Yang Zhong
2022-01-04 19:46   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-04 20:45     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-05  4:03       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 19/21] kvm: selftests: Add support for KVM_CAP_XSAVE2 Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 20/21] x86/fpu: Provide fpu_sync_guest_vmexit_xfd_state() Yang Zhong
2021-12-29 13:13 ` [PATCH v4 21/21] kvm: x86: Disable interception for IA32_XFD on demand Yang Zhong
2021-12-30  8:46 ` [PATCH v4 00/21] AMX Support in KVM Tian, Kevin
2022-01-04 18:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-04 18:54   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  0:10     ` Tian, Kevin [this message]

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