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From: Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@google.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
	Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
	Matthias Maennich <maennich@google.com>, shuah <shuah@kernel.org>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com,
	David Gow <davidgow@google.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	KUnit Development <kunit-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Salvatore <mike.salvatore@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-kselftest/test v1] apparmor: add AppArmor KUnit tests for policy unpack
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 13:11:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAXuY3o31iCJwZ+WGHMaK1MgpC0qv=JkJWnzv8Lhym9TnZQvcQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201910301205.74EC2A226D@keescook>

> Why can't unit tests live with the code they're testing? They're already
> logically tied together; what's the harm there? This needn't be the case
> for ALL tests, etc. The test driver could still live externally. The
> test in the other .c would just have exported functions... ?
>
Curiously enough, this approach has been adopted by D 2.0 where unittests are
members of the class under test:  https://digitalmars.com/d/2.0/unittest.html
but such approach is not mainstream.
I personally like the idea of testing the lowest level bits in isolation even if
they are not a part of any interface. I think that specifying the
interface using
unit tests and ensuring implementation correctness are complementary but
I haven't had much luck arguing this with our esteemed colleagues.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-30 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-18  0:18 Brendan Higgins
2019-10-18  0:33 ` Iurii Zaikin
2019-10-30 18:59   ` Kees Cook
2019-11-06  0:35     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-11-06  0:37       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-10-18  0:43 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-10-18 16:25   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-18 21:41     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-10-30 19:02       ` Kees Cook
2019-10-31  9:01         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-10-18 12:29 ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-10-19 12:56   ` Alan Maguire
2019-10-19 18:36     ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-10-24  0:42     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-10-24 10:15       ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-10-30 19:09         ` Kees Cook
2019-10-30 20:11           ` Iurii Zaikin [this message]
2019-10-31  1:40             ` John Johansen
2019-10-31  9:33             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-10-31 18:40               ` Kees Cook
2019-11-05 16:43               ` Mike Salvatore
2019-11-05 23:59                 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-10-31  1:37           ` John Johansen
2019-10-31  9:17           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-11-01 12:30             ` Alan Maguire
2019-11-05 23:44               ` Brendan Higgins

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