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From: Richard Fontana <rfontana@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	tj@kernel.org, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, jeyu@kernel.org,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	bvanassche@acm.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com, joe@perches.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, minchan@kernel.org,
	linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.com>, Kuno Woudt <kuno@frob.nl>,
	Richard Fontana <fontana@sharpeleven.org>,
	copyleft-next@lists.fedorahosted.org,
	Ciaran Farrell <Ciaran.Farrell@suse.com>,
	Christopher De Nicolo <Christopher.DeNicolo@suse.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/6] LICENSES: Add the copyleft-next-0.3.1 license
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 09:59:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC1cPGz3ARW_H9cq6LY0_h3YXomMmSdVR1v1+xEYbshtK8Mvmw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h75g0xbm.ffs@tglx>

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 5:10 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 29 2021 at 11:44, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > preferred. A summary of benefits why projects outside of Linux might
> > prefer to use copyleft-next >= 0.3.1 over GPLv2:
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > o copyleft-next has a 'built-in or-later' provision
>
> Not convinced that this is a benefit under all circumstances, but that's
> a philosopical problem. The real problem is this:
>
> > +Valid-License-Identifier: copyleft-next-0.3.1
>
> and
>
> > +11. Later License Versions
> > +
> > +    The Copyleft-Next Project may release new versions of copyleft-next,
> > +    designated by a distinguishing version number ("Later Versions").
> > +    Unless I explicitly remove the option of Distributing Covered Works
> > +    under Later Versions, You may Distribute Covered Works under any Later
> > +    Version.
>
> If I want to remove this option, then how do I express this with a SPDX
> license identifier?

Probably off-topic but: I think as things currently stand in SPDX you
would have to use an ad hoc LicenseRef- identifier to express the
entirety of copyleft-next-0.3.1 coupled with an amendment that sort of
strikes the later versions provision. This issue is also somewhat
relevant: https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/153

FWIW, built-in 'or-later' clauses are actually common in copyleft open
source licenses; the GPL family is the oddity here. (Then again, the
whole idea of a downstream license upgradability option is sort of
unusual in the bigger scheme of things, but that's another topic.)

Richard


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-24 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-29 18:44 [PATCH v9 0/6] test_sysfs: add new selftest for sysfs Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] LICENSES: Add the copyleft-next-0.3.1 license Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-23 21:10   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-24 13:59     ` Richard Fontana [this message]
2022-05-25 17:10     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 19:13     ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-05-25 21:50       ` J Lovejoy
2022-05-25 22:29         ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-05-23 21:22   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-25 16:57     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 20:51       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-25 23:53         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-23 21:27   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-25 16:43     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 17:05       ` Bird, Tim
2022-05-25 18:11         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 19:05           ` Bird, Tim
2022-05-25 19:44             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 22:16             ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-06-02  4:11               ` Bird, Tim
2022-06-02  6:20                 ` gregkh
2022-06-02 19:41                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-06-02 19:30                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] testing: use the copyleft-next-0.3.1 SPDX tag Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] selftests: add tests_sysfs module Luis Chamberlain
2021-12-03 15:29   ` Greg KH
2021-12-09  1:48     ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-12-10 21:39       ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-12-14 19:31       ` [copyleft-next] " Richard Fontana
2022-05-22 14:37     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-22 14:47       ` Greg KH
2022-05-22 15:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-23 19:37           ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] kernfs: add initial failure injection support Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] test_sysfs: add support to use kernfs failure injection Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:45 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] kernel/module: add documentation for try_module_get() Luis Chamberlain

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