From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@inria.fr>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
tj@kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, minchan@kernel.org, jeyu@kernel.org,
shuah@kernel.org, bvanassche@acm.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
joe@perches.com, tglx@linutronix.de, keescook@chromium.org,
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linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 11/12] zram: fix crashes with cpu hotplug multistate
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 16:24:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYFYFrnhwPiyOtst@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.21.2110271343290.3655@pobox.suse.cz>
On Wed 2021-10-27 13:57:40, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:37:30PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 10:48:18AM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > > > Livepatch code never called kobject_del() under a lock. It would cause
> > > > the obvious deadlock.
I have to correct myself. IMHO, the deadlock is far from obvious. I
always get lost in the code and the documentation is not clear.
I always get lost.
> >
> > Never?
>
> kobject_put() to be precise.
IMHO, the problem is actually with kobject_del() that gets blocked
until the sysfs interface gets removed. kobject_put() will have
the same problem only when the clean up is not delayed.
> When I started working on the support for module/live patches removal,
> calling kobject_put() under our klp_mutex lock was the obvious first
> choice given how the code was structured, but I ran into problems with
> deadlocks immediately. So it was changed to async approach with the
> workqueue. Thus the mainline code has never suffered from this, but we
> knew about the issues.
>
> > > > The historic code only waited in the
> > > > module_exit() callback until the sysfs interface was removed.
> > >
> > > OK, then Luis shouldn't consider livepatching as one such issue to solve
> > > with one generic solution.
> >
> > It's not what I was told when the deadlock was found with zram, so I was
> > informed quite the contrary.
>
> >From my perspective, it is quite easy to get it wrong due to either a lack
> of generic support, or missing rules/documentation. So if this thread
> leads to "do not share locks between a module removal and a sysfs
> operation" strict rule, it would be at least something. In the same
> manner as Luis proposed to document try_module_get() expectations.
The rule "do not share locks between a module removal and a sysfs
operation" is not clear to me.
IMHO, there are the following rules:
1. rule: kobject_del() or kobject_put() must not be called under a lock that
is used by store()/show() callbacks.
reason: kobject_del() waits until the sysfs interface is destroyed.
It has to wait until all store()/show() callbacks are finished.
2. rule: kobject_del()/kobject_put() must not be called from the
related store() callbacks.
reason: same as in 1st rule.
3. rule: module_exit() must wait until all release() callbacks are called
when kobject are static.
reason: kobject_put() must be called to clean up internal
dependencies. The clean up might be done asynchronously
and need access to the kobject structure.
Best Regards,
Petr
PS: I am sorry if I am messing things. I want to be sure that we are
all talking about the same and understand it the same way.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-02 15:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-27 16:37 [PATCH v8 00/12] syfs: generic deadlock fix with module removal Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-27 16:37 ` [PATCH v8 01/12] LICENSES: Add the copyleft-next-0.3.1 license Luis Chamberlain
[not found] ` <202110050907.35FBD2A1@keescook>
[not found] ` <YWR2ZrtzChamY1y4@bombadil.infradead.org>
2021-10-11 17:57 ` Kees Cook
2021-09-27 16:37 ` [PATCH v8 02/12] testing: use the copyleft-next-0.3.1 SPDX tag Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 16:11 ` Kees Cook
2021-09-27 16:37 ` [PATCH v8 03/12] selftests: add tests_sysfs module Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 14:16 ` Greg KH
2021-10-05 16:57 ` Tim.Bird
2021-10-11 17:40 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-11 17:38 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-07 14:23 ` Miroslav Benes
2021-10-11 19:11 ` Luis Chamberlain
[not found] ` <202110050912.3DF681ED@keescook>
2021-10-11 19:03 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-27 16:37 ` [PATCH v8 04/12] kernfs: add initial failure injection support Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 19:47 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-11 20:44 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-27 16:37 ` [PATCH v8 05/12] test_sysfs: add support to use kernfs failure injection Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 19:51 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-11 20:56 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-27 16:37 ` [PATCH v8 06/12] kernel/module: add documentation for try_module_get() Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 19:58 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-11 21:16 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-27 16:38 ` [PATCH v8 07/12] fs/kernfs/symlink.c: replace S_IRWXUGO with 0777 on kernfs_create_link() Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 19:59 ` Kees Cook
2021-09-27 16:38 ` [PATCH v8 08/12] fs/sysfs/dir.c: replace S_IRWXU|S_IRUGO|S_IXUGO with 0755 sysfs_create_dir_ns() Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 16:05 ` Kees Cook
2021-09-27 16:38 ` [PATCH v8 09/12] sysfs: fix deadlock race with module removal Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 9:24 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-11 21:25 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-12 0:20 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-12 21:18 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-13 1:07 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-13 12:35 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-13 15:04 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-13 21:16 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 20:50 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-11 22:26 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-13 12:41 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-27 16:38 ` [PATCH v8 10/12] test_sysfs: enable deadlock tests by default Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-27 16:38 ` [PATCH v8 11/12] zram: fix crashes with cpu hotplug multistate Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 20:55 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-11 18:27 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-14 1:55 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-14 2:11 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-14 20:24 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-14 23:52 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-15 0:22 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-15 8:36 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-15 8:52 ` Greg KH
2021-10-15 17:31 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-16 11:28 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-18 19:32 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-19 2:34 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-19 6:23 ` Miroslav Benes
2021-10-19 9:23 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-20 6:43 ` Miroslav Benes
2021-10-20 7:49 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-20 8:19 ` Miroslav Benes
2021-10-20 8:28 ` Greg KH
2021-10-25 9:58 ` Miroslav Benes
2021-10-20 10:09 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-26 8:48 ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-26 15:37 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-26 17:01 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-27 11:57 ` Miroslav Benes
2021-10-27 14:27 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-02 15:24 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2021-11-02 16:25 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-03 0:01 ` Ming Lei
2021-11-03 12:44 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-27 11:42 ` Miroslav Benes
2021-11-02 14:15 ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-02 14:51 ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-02 15:17 ` Ming Lei
2021-11-02 14:56 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-19 15:28 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-19 16:29 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-19 19:36 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-20 1:15 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-20 15:48 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-21 0:39 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-21 17:18 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-22 0:05 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-19 15:50 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-19 16:25 ` Greg KH
2021-10-19 16:30 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-19 17:28 ` Greg KH
2021-10-19 19:46 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-19 16:39 ` Ming Lei
2021-10-19 19:38 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-20 0:55 ` Ming Lei
2021-09-27 16:38 ` [PATCH v8 12/12] zram: use ATTRIBUTE_GROUPS to fix sysfs deadlock module removal Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-05 20:57 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-11 18:28 ` Luis Chamberlain
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