From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SIGNED_OFF_BY,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C8CC433E1 for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 19:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA462054F for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 19:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=broadcom.com header.i=@broadcom.com header.b="PKR2BUB+" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390498AbgEMTSe (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 May 2020 15:18:34 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53502 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2389392AbgEMTSc (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 May 2020 15:18:32 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-x1042.google.com (mail-pj1-x1042.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1042]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF767C05BD09 for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x1042.google.com with SMTP id s69so3227830pjb.4 for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=qcgpVTGY9wq1jzZvcaJkFQL+JrVfapS8nFhj9eA+ABc=; b=PKR2BUB+pog2PEu9p/br0Lry5EXdc2KN6bOwJFyF1W4C+jUuMVRpfoHaza2pnCSoJC C3/3pubb5sNA2c5ilG2xU+VRIP6IPZjNTi8SGl4twLBbc40AOYPQkQbFX4agaa6J5I2p kQkSAiHTagcd7+07Xjd3fGOAZRu3XLx6/Wy0Q= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=qcgpVTGY9wq1jzZvcaJkFQL+JrVfapS8nFhj9eA+ABc=; b=Sm9KrSV0YBKZ0ASJqr3B0Yn6voOumnj3gWdZrPNghIOXNaZXZ9Hn9+teT5feYmOilM s3AdrXjMlv4ioyFub/C4DRcDKUTTArUGZE8YzkNX1BhPHn2ab3BGavWDgj94lfHGvjal PSLTgKN6HP/Q88cdqPw4nQ5MQLwf0VtlvvJPuKFZ/G0riuXwOpk+euq0N/xBWOjAKaVf 6ldAPtmWeRGCRCTsCFK9muGyQkeW9lsvez12Nfy1mI0m25VnQ8/Res+PLD5pq+g+o4CV +NbU6xKUM3IJBN6VNQwCKbUl0wxXVnxsK6AEa7qwmGamsZ5trpCos+RPD+UroneKWdBH qQRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533sD25UCV/L5bdB+ZM6GXByrIOaPaznQMwjfWml2sk4u6e8i7Ck TeNJY7HPQQbhnULMFrMmAO0/FQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxJVr3lxhEfVIbkG1ij/W35rEZtckIrZ7uIVDMxUKUrxWF05zoes3fP2LI5LZG41vLjul9Jjg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:ec04:: with SMTP id l4mr669377pld.6.1589397511978; Wed, 13 May 2020 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.136.13.65] ([192.19.228.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y6sm15938924pjw.15.2020.05.13.12.18.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 May 2020 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/7] fs: introduce kernel_pread_file* support To: Mimi Zohar , Luis Chamberlain , Greg Kroah-Hartman , David Brown , Alexander Viro , Shuah Khan , bjorn.andersson@linaro.org, Shuah Khan , Arnd Bergmann Cc: "Rafael J . Wysocki" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, BCM Kernel Feedback , Olof Johansson , Andrew Morton , Dan Carpenter , Colin Ian King , Kees Cook , Takashi Iwai , linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, Andy Gross , linux-security-module , linux-integrity References: <20200508002739.19360-1-scott.branden@broadcom.com> <20200508002739.19360-2-scott.branden@broadcom.com> <1589395153.5098.158.camel@kernel.org> <0e6b5f65-8c61-b02e-7d35-b4ae52aebcf3@broadcom.com> <1589396593.5098.166.camel@kernel.org> From: Scott Branden Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 12:18:27 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1589396593.5098.166.camel@kernel.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: linux-kselftest-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org On 2020-05-13 12:03 p.m., Mimi Zohar wrote: > On Wed, 2020-05-13 at 11:53 -0700, Scott Branden wrote: >> Hi Mimi, >> >> On 2020-05-13 11:39 a.m., Mimi Zohar wrote: >>> [Cc'ing linux-security-module, linux-integrity] >>> >>> On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 17:27 -0700, Scott Branden wrote: >>>> Add kernel_pread_file* support to kernel to allow for partial read >>>> of files with an offset into the file. Existing kernel_read_file >>>> functions call new kernel_pread_file functions with offset=0 and >>>> flags=KERNEL_PREAD_FLAG_WHOLE. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Scott Branden >>>> --- >>> >>> >>>> @@ -941,14 +955,16 @@ int kernel_read_file(struct file *file, void **buf, loff_t *size, >> The checkpatch shows this as kernel_read_file when it is actually the >> new function kernel_pread_file. >> Please see the call to kernel_pread_file from kernel_read_file in the >> complete patch rather this snippet. >>>> >>>> if (bytes == 0) >>>> break; >>>> + >>>> + buf_pos += bytes; >>>> } >>>> >>>> - if (pos != i_size) { >>>> + if (pos != read_end) { >>>> ret = -EIO; >>>> goto out_free; >>>> } >>>> >>>> - ret = security_kernel_post_read_file(file, *buf, i_size, id); >>>> + ret = security_kernel_post_read_file(file, *buf, alloc_size, id); >>>> if (!ret) >>>> *size = pos; >>> Prior to the patch set that introduced this security hook, firmware >>> would be read twice, once for measuring/appraising the firmware and >>> again reading the file contents into memory.  Partial reads will break >>> both IMA's measuring the file and appraising the file signatures. >> The partial file read support is needed for request_firmware_into_buf >> from drivers.  The EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL is being removed so that >> there can be no abuse of the partial file read support.  Such file >> integrity checks are not needed for this use case.  The partial file >> (firmware image) is actually downloaded in portions and verified on the >> device it is loaded to. > It's all fine that the device will verify the firmware, but shouldn't > the kernel be able to also verify the firmware file signature it is > providing to the device, before providing it? Even if the kernel successfully verified the firmware file signature it would just be wasting its time.  The kernel in these use cases is not always trusted.  The device needs to authenticate the firmware image itself. > > The device firmware is being downloaded piecemeal from somewhere and > won't be measured? It doesn't need to be measured for current driver needs. If someone has such need the infrastructure could be added to the kernel at a later date.  Existing functionality is not broken in any way by this patch series. > > Mimi