On Sun 2018-12-30 18:09:35, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> On 12/29/18 8:07 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> >Hi!
> >
> >>>>With the "color" sysfs file it will make more sense to allow for user
> >>>>defined color palettes.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>I think defining these values in the device tree or acpi severely limits the devices
> >>>capabilities.  Especially in development phases.  If the knobs were exposed then the user space
> >>>can create new experiences.  The color definition should be an absolute color defined in the dt and
> >>>either the framework or user space needs to mix these appropriately.  IMO user space should set the policy
> >>>of the user experience and the dt/acpi needs to set the capabilities.
> >>>
> >>>I do like Pavels idea on defining the more standard binding pattern to "group" leds into a single group.
> >>>
> >>>Maybe the framework could take these groups and combine/group them into a single node with the groups colors.
> >>
> >>There is still HSV approach [0] in store. One problem with proposed
> >>implementation is fixed algorithm of RGB <-> HSV color space conversion.
> >>Maybe allowing for some board specific adjustments in DT would add
> >>more flexibility.
> >>
> >>[0] https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/8/31/255
> >
> >Yes we could do HSV. Problem is that that we do not really have RGB
> >available. We do have integers for red, green and blue, but they do
> >not correspond to RGB colorspace.
> 
> OK, so conversion from HSV to RGB would only increase the aberration.
> So, let's stick to RGB - we've got to have some stable ground and this
> is something that the hardware at least pretends to be compliant
>with.

I'm not saying that we should stick to RGB. I'm just saying that
problem is complex.

And no, hardware does not even pretend to be compliant with RGB color
model ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model ). In
particular, in RGB there is non-linear brightness curve.

> Our problem is how to set the color atomically. With HSV approach we
> were to obviate the problem by mapping brightness file to the "V"
> component of that color space, and write all H,S and V values to the
> hardware only on write to brightness file.

I'm not sure how realistic the "atomic color" problem is. Computers
are way faster than human vision.

I believe problem to start with is the "white" problem. Setting
R=G=B=255 will _not_ result in anything close to white light on
hardware I have.

Anyway,

									Pavel
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