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From: David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>
To: Martin Wilck <martin.wilck@suse.com>
Cc: "zkabelac@redhat.com" <zkabelac@redhat.com>,
	"bmarzins@redhat.com" <bmarzins@redhat.com>,
	"prajnoha@redhat.com" <prajnoha@redhat.com>,
	"linux-lvm@redhat.com" <linux-lvm@redhat.com>,
	Heming Zhao <heming.zhao@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Discussion: performance issue on event activation mode
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:04:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211018150418.GA3917@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <418b2bd497a3a4cd76840b3cceb1955ba7e9ba01.camel@suse.com>

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:24:49AM +0000, Martin Wilck wrote:
> I'd like to second Peter here, "RUN" is in general less fragile than
> "IMPORT{PROGRAM}". You should use IMPORT{PROGRAM}" if and only if 
> 
>  - the invoked program can work with incomplete udev state of a device
>    (the progrem should not try to access the device via
>    libudev, it should rather get properties either from sysfs or the
>    uevent's environment variables)
>  - you need the result or the output of the program in order to proceed
>    with rules processing.

Those are both true in this case.  I can't say I like it either, but udev
rules force hacky solutions on us.  I began trying to use RUN several
months ago and I think I gave up trying to find a way to pass values from
the RUN program back into the udev rule (possibly by writing values to a
temp file and then doing IMPORT{file}).  The udev rule needs the name of
the VG to activate, and that name comes from the pvscan.  For an even
uglier form of this, see the equivalent I wrote for dracut:
https://github.com/dracutdevs/dracut/pull/1567/files

The latest version of the hybrid service+event activation is here
https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/dev-dct-activation-switch-7

I've made it simple to edit lvm.conf to switch between:
- activation from fixed services only
- activation from events only
- activation from fixes services first, then from events

There are sure to be tradeoffs, we know that many concurrent activations
from events are slow, and fixed services which are more serialized could
be delayed from slow devices.  I'm still undecided on the best default
setting, i.e. which will work best for most people, and would welcome any
thoughts or relevant experience.

Dave

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-18 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-06  6:15 [linux-lvm] Discussion: performance issue on event activation mode heming.zhao
2021-06-06 16:35 ` Roger Heflin
2021-06-07 10:27   ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-07 15:30     ` heming.zhao
2021-06-07 15:45       ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-07 20:52       ` Roger Heflin
2021-06-07 21:30     ` David Teigland
2021-06-08  8:26       ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-08 15:39         ` David Teigland
2021-06-08 15:47           ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-08 16:02             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2021-06-08 16:05               ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-08 16:03             ` David Teigland
2021-06-08 16:07               ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-15 17:03           ` David Teigland
2021-06-15 18:21             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2021-06-16 16:18             ` heming.zhao
2021-06-16 16:38               ` David Teigland
2021-06-17  3:46                 ` heming.zhao
2021-06-17 15:27                   ` David Teigland
2021-06-08 16:49         ` heming.zhao
2021-06-08 16:18       ` heming.zhao
2021-06-09  4:01         ` heming.zhao
2021-06-09  5:37           ` Heming Zhao
2021-06-09 18:59             ` David Teigland
2021-06-10 17:23               ` heming.zhao
2021-06-07 15:48 ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-07 16:31   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2021-06-07 21:48   ` David Teigland
2021-06-08 12:29     ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-06-08 13:23       ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-08 13:41         ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-06-08 13:46           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2021-06-08 13:56             ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-06-08 14:23               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2021-06-08 14:48               ` Martin Wilck
2021-06-08 15:19                 ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-06-08 15:39                   ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-09 19:44         ` David Teigland
2021-09-10 17:38           ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-12 16:51             ` heming.zhao
2021-09-27 10:00           ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-09-27 15:38             ` David Teigland
2021-09-28  6:34               ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-28 14:42                 ` David Teigland
2021-09-28 15:16                   ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-28 15:31                     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-28 15:56                     ` David Teigland
2021-09-28 18:03                       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-28 17:42                     ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-28 19:15                       ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-29 22:06                       ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-09-30  7:51                         ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-30  8:07                           ` heming.zhao
2021-09-30  9:31                             ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-30 11:41                             ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-09-30 15:32                               ` heming.zhao
2021-10-01  7:41                                 ` Martin Wilck
2021-10-01  8:08                                   ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-09-30 11:29                           ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-09-30 16:04                             ` David Teigland
2021-09-30 14:41                           ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-10-01  7:42                             ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-29 21:53                 ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-09-30  7:45                   ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-29 21:39               ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-09-30  7:22                 ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-30 14:26                   ` David Teigland
2021-09-30 15:55                 ` David Teigland
2021-10-01  8:00                   ` Peter Rajnoha
2021-10-18  6:24                   ` Martin Wilck
2021-10-18 15:04                     ` David Teigland [this message]
2021-10-18 16:56                       ` heming.zhao
2021-10-18 21:51                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2021-10-19 17:18                         ` David Teigland
2021-10-20 14:40                       ` Martin Wilck
2021-10-20 14:50                         ` David Teigland
2021-10-20 14:54                           ` Martin Wilck
2021-10-20 15:12                             ` David Teigland
2021-06-07 16:40 ` David Teigland
2021-07-02 21:09 ` David Teigland
2021-07-02 21:22   ` Martin Wilck
2021-07-02 22:02     ` David Teigland
2021-07-03 11:49       ` heming.zhao
2021-07-08 10:10         ` Tom Yan
2021-07-02 21:31   ` Tom Yan

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