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From: Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Cc: Stuart, Zhong Lidong <lidong.zhong@suse.com>,
	David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
	Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Does LVM have any plan/schedule to support btrfs in fsadm
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35d4978f0aa1c0a78c8c618557ba15e5@assyoma.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b0c22aef-8a9-73e6-db74-c24633c3496@gathman.org>

Il 2021-06-28 05:28 Stuart D Gathman ha scritto:
> Yes.  I like the checksums in metadata feature for enhanced integrity
> checking.

Until recently btrfs has issue when a LVM snapshot was mounted. It is 
now solved?

> It seems too complicated to have anytime soon - but when a filesystem
> detects corruption, and is on an LVM (or md) RAID1 layer, an ioctl to
> read alternate mirror branches to see which (if any) has the correct
> data would allow recovery.  Btrfs does this if it is doing the
> mirroring, but then you lose all the other features from LVM or md
> raid10, including running other filesystems and efficient virtual
> disks for
> virtual machines.

For this to work, LVM should be able to identify the corrupted data. 
Without checksum, how can you do that? The solution is to use 
dm-integrity under the RAID layer. It works pretty well, letting apart 
the big performance drop in the default (journaled) configuration 
(bitmap is faster, but leave a small window for corruption to happen 
undetected).

That said, for rewrite-heavy workload (virtual machines, databases, etc) 
btrfs is very slow (and disabling CoW is not a solution for me, as it 
also disables checksum, compression, etc).

> We eventually got DISCARD operations to pass to lower layers.
> Dealing with mirror branches should really be a thing too.

As said above, the issue is not to read from the mirror leg separately; 
rather, to detect *which* mirror leg contains valid data.

Regards.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-28  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-25  5:28 [linux-lvm] Does LVM have any plan/schedule to support btrfs in fsadm heming.zhao
2021-06-25 10:57 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2021-06-27 17:40   ` heming.zhao
2021-06-28  3:28     ` Stuart D Gathman
2021-06-28  7:29       ` Gionatan Danti [this message]
2021-06-28 23:00         ` Chris Murphy
2021-06-29 22:32           ` Gionatan Danti

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