From: Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>,
Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>,
"Stuart D. Gathman" <stuart@gathman.org>
Cc: "Dalebjörk, Tomas" <tomas.dalebjork@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] exposing snapshot block device
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:08:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f73ab6ce-ba22-34f8-7153-e876b13fab5c@assyoma.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3a53c24-1f91-e5f5-e7e1-091b886da44a@redhat.com>
On 23/10/19 12:46, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
> Just few 'comments' - it's not really comparable - the efficiency of
> thin-pool metadata outperforms old snapshot in BIG way (there is no
> point to talk about snapshots that takes just couple of MiB)
Yes, this matches my experience.
> There is also BIG difference about the usage of old snapshot origin and
> snapshot.
>
> COW of old snapshot effectively cuts performance 1/2 if you write to
> origin.
If used without non-volatile RAID controller, 1/2 is generous - I
measured performance as low as 1/5 (with fat snapshot).
Talking about thin snapshot, an obvious performance optimization which
seems to not be implemented is to skip reading source data when
overwriting in larger-than-chunksize blocks.
For example, consider a completely filled 64k chunk thin volume (with
thinpool having ample free space). Snapshotting it and writing a 4k
block on origin will obviously cause a read of the original 64k chunk,
an in-memory change of the 4k block and a write of the entire modified
64k block to a new location. But writing, say, a 1 MB block should *not*
cause the same read on source: after all, the read data will be
immediately discarded, overwritten by the changed 1 MB block.
However, my testing shows that source chunks are always read, even when
completely overwritten.
Am I missing something?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-23 11:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-22 10:47 [linux-lvm] exposing snapshot block device Dalebjörk, Tomas
2019-10-22 13:57 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-22 15:29 ` Dalebjörk, Tomas
2019-10-22 15:36 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-22 16:13 ` Dalebjörk, Tomas
2019-10-23 10:26 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-23 10:56 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-10-22 16:15 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2019-10-22 17:02 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-10-22 21:38 ` Gionatan Danti
2019-10-22 22:53 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2019-10-23 6:58 ` Gionatan Danti
2019-10-23 10:06 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-10-23 10:12 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-23 10:46 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-23 11:08 ` Gionatan Danti [this message]
2019-10-23 11:24 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-10-23 11:26 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-10-24 16:01 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-25 16:31 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-11-04 5:54 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-11-04 10:07 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-11-04 14:40 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-11-04 15:04 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-11-04 17:28 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-11-05 16:24 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-11-05 16:40 ` Mikulas Patocka
2019-11-05 20:56 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-11-06 9:22 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-11-07 16:54 ` Mikulas Patocka
2019-11-07 17:29 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2020-09-04 12:09 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2020-09-04 12:37 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2020-09-07 13:09 ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-09-07 14:14 ` Dalebjörk, Tomas
2020-09-07 14:17 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2020-09-07 16:34 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2020-09-07 16:42 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2020-09-07 17:37 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2020-09-07 17:50 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2020-09-08 12:32 ` Dalebjörk, Tomas
2020-09-07 19:56 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2020-09-07 20:22 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2020-09-07 21:02 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2019-10-23 12:12 ` Ilia Zykov
2019-10-23 12:20 ` Ilia Zykov
2019-10-23 13:05 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-23 14:40 ` Gionatan Danti
2019-10-23 15:46 ` Ilia Zykov
2019-10-23 12:59 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-23 14:37 ` Gionatan Danti
2019-10-23 15:37 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-10-23 17:16 ` Gionatan Danti
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