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* Amiga PCMCIA network card support
@ 2019-10-24 20:56 Andreas 'count' Kotes
  2019-10-25  7:25 ` Kars de Jong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 74+ messages in thread
From: Andreas 'count' Kotes @ 2019-10-24 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-m68k

Hello dear list,

I'm new to the party, so please bear with my with stupid questions and
infractions on policy or anything else - I'm willing to learn, and am
receptive to change, please just poke me if needed :)

Replying to a somewhat older (but not too old) mail:

On Fri, 21 Dec 2018, Michael Schmitz wrote:
>+if APNE
>+config APNE100MBIT
>+	bool "PCMCIA NE2000 100MBit support"
>+	default n
>+	depends on NE2000=n && PCMCIA_AXNET=n
>+	depends on PCMCIA_PCNET=n && STNIC=n && ULTRA=n && WD80x3=n
>
>In all honesty, I doubt anyone could ever use the stnic, ultra and wd
>drivers on m68k (Geert?) so these could be omitted as well. Not sure
>pcnet_cs or axnet_cs are possible to use on the Amiga PCMCIA slot, so
>all that remains in practice is the ne driver (which is used on Atari).

what is the underlying problem here anyway?

Looking at http://www.g-mb.de/pcmcia_e.html, there are quite a few cards
supported by cnet.device under AmigaOS, and seem to be working well.

I've got an Apollo RE450CT (at least I think it is - FCC ID: MQ4EC2T)
which works just fine under AmigaOS, but isn't detected by apne.ko at
all - the AmigaOS driver has had the last change to it in August 2007.

One very common card amongst AmigaOS developers with PCMCIA seems to be
the 3Com Etherlink III (3c589), which seems have had a sufficient driver
update in February 2010.

So, the situation is "ok" under AmigaOS ... but Linux support isn't there.

Looking at various forums and mailing lists, people willing to use (or
at least try) to try Linux on an A1200 or A600 seems to fail at this
stage on a regular basis, and some report rather desperate searches for
supported PCMCIA cards on various sites where people trade this kind of
stuff - usually, to no success.

If I look at the amount of people who do report success, consider the
amount of people who talk about this issue at all, and then wildly guess
how many people might have tried and failed and not said a thing, I
think there might be a quite reasonable userbase unlockable by improving
support for PCMCIA cards. The A1200 and A600 are small and sweet boxes,
and companies like Individual Computer are still building accelerators
that make them quite usable for surprising amount of tasks.

Individual Computers also created the RapidRoad extension, which adds
USB support - and AmigaOS software support is also surprisingly good.
I added a Mouse and a Keyboard and they "just worked", same as a USB
network device (ASIX AX88772), which also "just works".

I'd like to work on support for RapidRoad (shouldn't be too much work,
it uses a ST-Ericsson's isp1763 for which Android support already exists
(although probably not for the 8-bit mode it uses), and supporting it
when connected to an X-Surf should afterwards also be possible, if I
read http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/RapidRoad correct ...

... but, all of this is no fun at all without network support under
Linux :( .. I'll order a GuruNet/Plipbox style device and shall see how
that helps me, but ...

What needs to happen for stable, reliable support for existing PCMCIA
network cards people already have? How can we unblock those possible
Linux users?

cheers from Berlin,

  count

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2019-10-24 20:56 Amiga PCMCIA network card support Andreas 'count' Kotes
2019-10-25  7:25 ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-25 11:49   ` Andreas 'count' Kotes
2019-10-28  9:19     ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-28 11:08       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2019-10-28 13:00         ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-28 13:20           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2019-10-28 15:39             ` ESP SCSI driver (was: Amiga PCMCIA network card support) Kars de Jong
2019-10-28 18:32               ` Michael Schmitz
2019-10-29  9:37                 ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-29 20:20                   ` ESP SCSI driver Michael Schmitz
2019-10-29 22:05                   ` [PATCH] esp_scsi: Add support for FSC chip Kars de Jong
2019-10-30  0:23                     ` Michael Schmitz
2019-10-30  7:11                       ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-30 18:42                         ` Michael Schmitz
2019-10-30  0:31                     ` Finn Thain
2019-10-30  1:06                       ` Michael Schmitz
2019-10-30  7:25                         ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-30  8:45                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-30  9:08                             ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-30 18:34                               ` Michael Schmitz
2019-10-30 18:52                             ` Brad Boyer
2019-10-30  7:22                       ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-30 23:15                         ` Finn Thain
2019-11-12 18:57                     ` [PATCH 0/2] Some esp_scsi updates Kars de Jong
2019-11-12 18:57                       ` [PATCH 1/2] esp_scsi: Correct ordering of PCSCSI definition in esp_rev enum Kars de Jong
2019-11-12 23:07                         ` Finn Thain
2019-11-13  8:00                           ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-13 22:25                             ` Finn Thain
2019-11-13 14:22                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-13 15:03                           ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-12 18:57                       ` [PATCH 2/2] esp_scsi: Add support for FSC chip Kars de Jong
2019-11-12 23:18                         ` Finn Thain
2019-11-12 23:57                           ` Finn Thain
2019-11-13  9:30                           ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-13 22:24                             ` Finn Thain
2019-11-14 21:59                       ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Some esp_scsi updates Kars de Jong
2019-11-14 21:59                         ` [PATCH 1/2] esp_scsi: Correct ordering of PCSCSI definition in esp_rev enum Kars de Jong
2019-11-14 22:06                           ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-14 21:59                         ` [PATCH 2/2] esp_scsi: Add support for FSC chip Kars de Jong
2019-11-14 22:07                           ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-14 22:25                         ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Some esp_scsi updates Kars de Jong
2019-11-14 22:25                           ` [PATCH v2 1/2] esp_scsi: Correct ordering of PCSCSI definition in esp_rev enum Kars de Jong
2019-11-15  2:13                             ` Finn Thain
2019-11-15  7:04                               ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-14 22:25                           ` [PATCH v3 2/2] esp_scsi: Add support for FSC chip Kars de Jong
2019-11-15  2:09                             ` Finn Thain
2019-11-18 13:27                               ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-09 19:14                   ` [PATCH] zorro_esp: increase maximum dma length to 65536 bytes Kars de Jong
2019-11-09 20:12                     ` James Bottomley
2019-11-10  2:36                       ` Michael Schmitz
2019-11-10  9:01                         ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-10 19:26                           ` Michael Schmitz
2019-11-11  8:47                             ` Kars de Jong
2019-11-10 19:35                         ` James Bottomley
2019-11-12 17:55                           ` [PATCH v2] zorro_esp: Limit DMA transfers to 65536 bytes (except on Fastlane) Kars de Jong
2019-11-12 22:46                             ` Finn Thain
2019-11-13  2:27                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-11-12  9:34                         ` [PATCH] zorro_esp: increase maximum dma length to 65536 bytes Kars de Jong
2019-11-09 22:53                     ` Finn Thain
2019-11-10  9:06                       ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-28 23:38               ` ESP SCSI driver (was: Amiga PCMCIA network card support) Finn Thain
2019-10-29 11:52                 ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-29 20:16                   ` ESP SCSI driver Michael Schmitz
2019-10-28 22:31           ` Amiga PCMCIA network card support Finn Thain
2019-10-29  8:56           ` FOSDEM (was: Re: Amiga PCMCIA network card support) Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-29  9:13             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2019-10-28 22:08       ` Amiga PCMCIA network card support Finn Thain
2019-10-29  9:00       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-29  9:12         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2019-10-29  9:14           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-29  9:20             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2019-10-29  9:40         ` Kars de Jong
2019-10-28  6:57   ` Michael Schmitz

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