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From: Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@gmail.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>
Cc: linux-m68k <linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org>,
	Debian m68k <debian-68k@lists.debian.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Seccomp support for linux-m68k
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 11:18:18 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1e0c86d-fb71-f203-b66b-9645107a270f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4b2815bb-1eaf-d0a3-0ab4-5db473dfaa05@physik.fu-berlin.de>

Adrian,

Am 21.03.2020 um 11:59 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:
> On 3/20/20 11:49 PM, Finn Thain wrote:
>> I suspect (without evidence) that many m68k systems are actually virtual
>> machines. And the need for container hosting on m68k seems negligible.
>
> It isn't about security. It's about being able to build more packages
> as some packages have started to make libseccomp support mandatory.

Is there a good technical reason for this decision? I suppose most of 
these packages are not about VM or container hosting?

What about checking at runtime for availability of the library, and 
disabling VM related functionality if it wasn't possible to load?

In the event that kernel support can't be avoided: I suppose there a git 
commit for Helge's hppa changes that would help gauge the effort 
required for implementing such support?

Cheers,

	Michael


>
>> Therefore, there doesn't seem to be a lot of actual benefit from seccomp.
>
> I disagree for the aforementioned reasons.
>
>> There are 17 architectures (out of 25) lacking seccomp support. This
>> suggests that the portability issue around this missing feature can't
>> easily be pinned on m68k.
>
> The question is how many of these 17 architectures are actually supported
> by Debian.
>
> If you look at the build results for libseccomp in Debian, you can see that
> alpha, ia64, m68k, sh and sparc64 are missing the feature, everyone else
> supports it [1].
>
> Adrian
>
>> [1] https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=libseccomp&suite=sid
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-21 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-20  8:46 Seccomp support for linux-m68k John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-20 22:49 ` Finn Thain
2020-03-20 22:59   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-20 23:08     ` Finn Thain
2020-03-21 22:18     ` Michael Schmitz [this message]
2020-03-21 22:48       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-03-21 23:01         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-21 15:13 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-25  9:29   ` Michael Schmitz
2020-07-25 11:55     ` Andreas Schwab
2020-07-26  1:23       ` Michael Schmitz
2020-07-26 11:03         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-07-26 21:02           ` Michael Schmitz
2020-07-26 21:08             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-07-26 21:39               ` Michael Schmitz
2020-07-27  6:35                 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-07-25 18:54     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-26  1:34       ` Michael Schmitz
2020-07-26  7:13         ` Michael Schmitz
2020-07-26 11:05         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-07-26 20:46           ` Michael Schmitz
2020-07-26 21:10             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-07-26 22:40               ` Michael Schmitz
2020-07-25 22:48     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

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