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Branden Robinson" To: "Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)" Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" , linux-man@vger.kernel.org, colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com Subject: Re: .RS Message-ID: <20201113080349.vp6ggswc2jbhseki@localhost.localdomain> References: <20201111150950.u7lf3xeulydbd2vr@localhost.localdomain> <20201112070915.ejttfz3lu3sphkkp@localhost.localdomain> <1ae93b8f-c6e2-f11d-0844-a8cf702f933b@gmail.com> <60a7fa20-d41e-12d9-a81e-558512a74f0c@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nyhelkivr364tbi5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org --nyhelkivr364tbi5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2020-11-12T21:57:34+0100, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote: > > * [.in 4] simply doesn't seem to work at all. It's important here to check what request comes next. Many of the man macros will change the indentation again on you. > > * [.RS 4] and [.RS +4n] seem to be equivalent. > > * [.RS 4] is different (worse) than [.in +4n] > > in some very specific scenario: > >=20 > and [.in 4n] seems to indent to absolute column 4. Yes. Many *roff requests are documented like .in is in groff(7). .in =C2=B1N Change indentation according to =C2=B1N (default scaling = indica=E2=80=90 tor m). The =C2=B1 indicates an optional sign. Where there is no sign, the .in request performs absolute positioning. I might have led you astray by bringing up the "|" operator before; a hazard of my unfortunate tendency to ramble when composing emails in haste. The '+' that .RS forces as a prefix to its argument before passing it to =2Ein prevents the _macro_ argument from being interpreted as an absolute position (even if the "|" operator is used). =2ETH foo 1 2020-11-13 "foo 1.2.3" =2ESH Name bar \- baz =2ESH Description foo =2ERS 4n indent =2ERS |5n bar =2ERE =2ERE In the above example, "bar" is set 5 ens to the right of "foo", even though we tried to set it much farther left. 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