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Branden Robinson" To: Alejandro Colomar Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman Subject: Re: [RFC v3 8/9] Many pages: [Verbatim-man-pages] Use SPDX markings Message-ID: <20210908043502.xcmj6yoxrneokwl5@localhost.localdomain> References: <20210905132542.245236-1-alx.manpages@gmail.com> <20210905132542.245236-9-alx.manpages@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xzq2hjtgog34axdf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210905132542.245236-9-alx.manpages@gmail.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org --xzq2hjtgog34axdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Alex! I'd like to request a different choice of name for the SPDX license tag used by the man-pages documents affected by this change. It's my understanding that there is freedom to make such a choice because the proposed tag does not yet appear in the SPDX license list[1]. I have a few reasons: (1) the license tag says "Verbatim" which implies to me that permission to modify the document is excluded--but it is not; (2) with the exception of the paragraph about the kernel and system libraries being in flux, this license appears identical to what I (and some folks in Debian) started terming the "traditional GNU documentation license) about 18 years ago when debate over the GNU FDL was raging[2]; this was in fact the license the GNU project used for most of its documentation before it promulgated the FDL. As far as I know, this license text has no earlier provenance; I would appreciate correction on this point. Thirdly, since that time, the GNU project has christened the license terms for many of its web pages the "GNU Verbatim Copying License"[3]. You can perhaps see how this might generate confusion. Because the warranty-disclaiming third paragraph about the Linux kernel is unique to the Linux man-pages project and the term "verbatim" implies too much restriction in my view, I envision a few alternatives. man-pages-doc man-pages-document-copyleft man-pages-copyleft Any of the above could be further prefixed with "Linux-" to reinforce the specificity to this project, of course. If pressed for a preference, I reckon I would pick "Linux-man-pages-copyleft". I feel that the "VERBATIM" string is similarly misleading, but it's not presented as an SPDX license tag, and I see that its use is already well-entrenched. I expected to find something like a sed script in the man-pages scripts/ directory that manipulated lines matching '%%%LICENSE_START(' but failed to. Perhaps a convenient new moniker could be adopted to supersede "VERBATIM" in this context, once the SPDX tagging initiative is complete? Regards, Branden At 2021-09-05T15:25:41+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > To simplify understanding which license applies to each file, > let's use SPDX markings, which are simple, informative, and > commonly used in many projects. > Let's also follow REUSE conventions. [...] > diff --git a/man8/sln.8 b/man8/sln.8 > index 341cf9afb..0a2f04844 100644 > --- a/man8/sln.8 > +++ b/man8/sln.8 > @@ -1,26 +1,5 @@ > -.\" Copyright (c) 2013 by Michael Kerrisk > -.\" > -.\" %%%LICENSE_START(VERBATIM) > -.\" Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this > -.\" manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are > -.\" preserved on all copies. > -.\" > -.\" Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of th= is > -.\" manual under the conditions for verbatim copying, provided that the > -.\" entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of a > -.\" permission notice identical to this one. > -.\" > -.\" Since the Linux kernel and libraries are constantly changing, this > -.\" manual page may be incorrect or out-of-date. The author(s) assume no > -.\" responsibility for errors or omissions, or for damages resulting from > -.\" the use of the information contained herein. The author(s) may not > -.\" have taken the same level of care in the production of this manual, > -.\" which is licensed free of charge, as they might when working > -.\" professionally. > -.\" > -.\" Formatted or processed versions of this manual, if unaccompanied by > -.\" the source, must acknowledge the copyright and authors of this work. > -.\" %%%LICENSE_END > +.\" SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2013, Michael Kerrisk > +.\" SPDX-License-Identifier: Verbatim-man-pages > .\" > .TH SLN 8 2021-03-22 "GNU" "Linux Programmer's Manual" > .SH NAME > --=20 > 2.33.0 >=20 [1] https://spdx.org/licenses/ [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/09/msg00264.html [3] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#VerbatimCopying --xzq2hjtgog34axdf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEh3PWHWjjDgcrENwa0Z6cfXEmbc4FAmE4PW4ACgkQ0Z6cfXEm bc4fexAAk53LmYb/IEkowBxWM97tQhKQ4aHzbasTnJhnoS3ht+n04P/lSxgpSk0o tYlw69OD3xcfLWN4jujWpXGLHg+xkcilJOz7d1r1U8vJMl0Ynq+fXByQz+Cqczdn rS/9IUTloALyMO+6UTVbUjM2Gt2QnFHX4bTsxzE9+WdenLjMH7oLG/L7+3J76z+j LCLqKSYjcE8oWGCV2xNqpbG8jBx/BE7q0+SmiaHE0jVOyULWA2s1zZ9Yhxk92EV6 Iq8kO8HAg02sBHjJwTS57Wb+jDRVx0XZKCAieVBc6baKOhA2NNvtLfCf9uhQqsOA CnZQd1PosdbeSiyodmu+iaoPIX7ToIdc6jLUILdnc5c+B3uXTSvmjLkuggmvIdeg /5+O9Arqur9UyrZkqCyR+p7HvptlHoAWQQeIIT2z+YSqIZpvfHIjBuBq06QSYzxC UnLOq8VmowPLAN9SsqvIh98w6M02vNCs0Lq+DdI+ts10cTYjlT/OGUTgfJLhsRQK tgLGfPzYOb0yelwbK8BbSvBDug8X3oEMguxIShtfp9duALbc8IpYLf1zLEwMdRX+ I7FaNwyvOQHdTrhSEst+8x30i1BQUEiZCw3rv1kS5Rd3LPAx6zq9/iZkNsFd2Fwf 6cJhHYiWFGdgMN/Sdj767/aStLJqTMnruHP0YtH/Gi2P6aTINB0= =jHV1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xzq2hjtgog34axdf--