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([2001:a61:2482:101:3351:6160:8173:cc31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x13sm514714wmc.5.2020.04.20.02.01.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Apr 2020 02:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Errors in man pages, here: man-pages(7): Wording To: Helge Kreutzmann References: <20200419064809.GA31093@Debian-50-lenny-64-minimal> From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" Message-ID: <8e7a241a-936f-829c-42f6-984ce82c4e20@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:01:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200419064809.GA31093@Debian-50-lenny-64-minimal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-man-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org On 4/19/20 8:48 AM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Dear manpages maintainers. > the manpage-l10n project maintains a large number of translations of > man pages both from a large variety of sources (including manpages) as > well for a large variety of target languages. > > During their work translators notice different possible issues in the > original (english) man pages. Sometiems this is a straightforward > typo, sometimes a hard to read sentence, sometimes this is a convention > not held up and sometimes we simply do not understand the original. > > We use several distributions as sources and update regularly (at > least every 2 month). This means we are fairly recent (some > distributions like archlinux also update frequently) but might miss > the latest upstream version once a while, so the error might be > already fixed. We apologize and ask you to close the issue immediately > if this should be the case, but given the huge volume of projects and > the very limited number of volunteers we are not able to double check > each and every issue. > > Secondly we translators see the manpages in the neutral po format, > i.e. converted and harmonized, but not the original source (be it man, > groff, xml or other). So we cannot provide a true patch (where > possible), but only an approximation which you need to translate into > your source format. > > Finally the issues I'm reporting have accumulated over time and are > not always discovered by me, so sometimes my description of the > problem my be a bit limited - do not hesitate to ask so we can clarify > them. > > I'm now reporting the errors for your project. As requested, each > issue is sent in an unique mail for easier tracking on your side. If > future reports should use another channel, please let me know. > > ** > > Wording: > > a) msgid "Those functions which wrap operations performed by the kernel." See patch below. > b) > "Overviews or descriptions of various topics, conventions and protocols, " > "character set standards, the standard filesystem layout, and miscellaneous " > "other things." I need more explanation of the problem here. Thanks, Michael diff --git a/man7/man-pages.7 b/man7/man-pages.7 index 2bc8610f2..9212ec114 100644 --- a/man7/man-pages.7 +++ b/man7/man-pages.7 @@ -50,11 +50,11 @@ for authors writing man pages for other projects. The manual Sections are traditionally defined as follows: .TP .B 1 User commands (Programs) -Those commands that can be executed by the user from within +Commands that can be executed by the user from within a shell. .TP .B 2 System calls -Those functions which wrap operations performed by the kernel. +Functions which wrap operations performed by the kernel. .TP .B 3 Library calls All library functions excluding the system call wrappers -- Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/