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From: "Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Eugene Syromyatnikov <evgsyr@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Kerrisk-manpages <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/45] Add LIBRARY section (based on FreeBSD manual pages)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 20:40:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <97082679-7872-ffea-7700-44c0e653a857@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkJdtFKY+DTTcdNuSPDLn-DUXDfJYcFj9814v5yHpOwxnwfg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Eugene,

On 9/11/21 8:29 PM, Eugene Syromyatnikov wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 6:01 PM Alejandro Colomar
> <alx.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alejandro Colomar (45):
>>    _exit.2: Add LIBRARY section
>>    keyctl.2: Add LIBRARY section
...
>>    socketcall.2: Add LIBRARY section
>>    sigwaitinfo.2: Add LIBRARY section
> 
> I'm not sure about these, my understanding is that the primary purpose
> of section 2 is syscalls, userspace-kernel interface, and not their
> libc wrappers.  Even intro(2) states that it is Linux-specific:
> “Section  2  of the manual describes the Linux system calls.  A system
> call is an entry point into the Linux kernel.” Tying it to libc feels
> like a bit of a stretch, even though it is the exceedingly common
> interface for invoking them.
> 

Thanks for pointing that out.  I had some doubts about this in the 
beginning.  I started writing something like "Linux kernel - GNU C 
library" meaning that it's not only a thing of glibc but also the 
kernel.  But no one replied my RFCs... :/

In the end I simplified it to Standard C library (as FreeBSD does), 
because I wasn't convinced of the syntax I had used.  And also, since a 
man page being in section 2 already implies that it is implemented in 
the kernel, I didn't want to be repetitive, and just point what the user 
has to link to to make a program work.

There are some system calls that are wrapped by other libraries, such as 
keyctl(2) by libkeyutils, and those get a different LIBRARY (you can 
check patch 02/45).

But if you think there's a better way to express this, please propose it.

Thanks!

Alex.


-- 
Alejandro Colomar
Linux man-pages comaintainer; https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-11 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-11 16:00 [PATCH 00/45] Add LIBRARY section (based on FreeBSD manual pages) Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 01/45] _exit.2: Add LIBRARY section Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 02/45] keyctl.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 03/45] gamma.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 04/45] request_key.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 05/45] write.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 06/45] wait4.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 07/45] wait.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 08/45] vmsplice.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 09/45] vm86.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 10/45] vhangup.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 11/45] vfork.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 12/45] utimensat.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 13/45] utime.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 14/45] ustat.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 15/45] userfaultfd.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 16/45] unshare.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 17/45] uname.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 18/45] umount.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 19/45] tkill.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 21/45] unlink.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 22/45] umask.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 23/45] truncate.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 24/45] timer_getoverrun.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 25/45] timerfd_create.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 26/45] timer_delete.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:00 ` [PATCH 27/45] timer_create.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 28/45] time.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 29/45] tee.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 30/45] syslog.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 31/45] sysinfo.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 32/45] syscall.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 33/45] sync_file_range.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 34/45] sync.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 35/45] symlink.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 36/45] swapon.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 37/45] subpage_prot.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 38/45] statx.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 39/45] stat.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 40/45] spu_run.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 41/45] spu_create.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 42/45] splice.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 43/45] socketpair.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 44/45] socketcall.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 16:01 ` [PATCH 45/45] sigwaitinfo.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-09-11 18:29 ` [PATCH 00/45] Add LIBRARY section (based on FreeBSD manual pages) Eugene Syromyatnikov
2021-09-11 18:40   ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) [this message]
2021-09-11 22:24     ` Eugene Syromyatnikov
2021-09-11 22:37       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-09-13 18:42 ` Stefan Puiu
2021-09-14  8:30   ` Eugene Syromyatnikov
2021-09-14  8:32     ` Eugene Syromyatnikov
2021-09-15 20:20     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-09-17  8:12     ` Stefan Puiu
2021-09-17  8:21     ` Florian Weimer

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