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([2001:a61:2479:6801:d8fe:4132:9f23:7e8f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n21sm5240898wmi.21.2020.09.29.05.13.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Sep 2020 05:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] system_data_types.7: srcfix To: Jakub Wilk , "G. Branden Robinson" References: <20200925080330.184303-1-colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com> <20200927061015.4obt73pdhyh7wecu@localhost.localdomain> <20200928132959.x4koforqnzohxh5u@jwilk.net> From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" Message-ID: <9b8303fe-969e-c9f0-e3cd-0590b342d5bf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:13:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200928132959.x4koforqnzohxh5u@jwilk.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org On 9/28/20 3:29 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > Hi Branden! > > In groff_man_style(7) you wrote: >> Unused macro arguments are more often simply omitted, or good style >> suggests that a more appropriate macro be chosen, that earlier >> arguments are more important than later ones, or that arguments have >> identical significance such that skipping any is superfluous. > > After 15 minutes of gawking at this sentence, I still don't understand > what are you trying to say here. The sentence should be either > thoroughly rephrased or removed. I must say that I too found it hard to parse. I presume, Branden, that you mean: [[ Unused macro arguments are more often simply omitted, or good style suggests EITHER (1) that a more appropriate macro be chosen, (2) that earlier arguments are more important than later ones, or (3) that arguments have identical significance such that skipping any is superfluous. ]] But it takes a few scans to work that out. Perhaps break this into smaller pieces, or add some explicit structuring elements to the sentence? Thanks, Michael -- Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/