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From: Stefan Puiu <stefan.puiu@gmail.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	lnx-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/24] getgrent_r.3: Use sizeof() to get buffer size (instead of hardcoding macro name)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 13:03:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACKs7VDzgUyDM9FhRR69Aqw2-0xiZC86EhkqSmD5P68derRBFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7dd2ab72-3ce7-1f50-229a-e663c3df2dcd@gmail.com>

Hi,

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:28 PM Alejandro Colomar
<colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Stefan,
>
> On 2020-09-11 16:35, Stefan Puiu wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:15 AM Alejandro Colomar
>  > <colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> Signed-off-by: Alejandro Colomar <colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com>
>  >> ---
>  >>   man3/getgrent_r.3 | 2 +-
>  >>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>  >>
>  >> diff --git a/man3/getgrent_r.3 b/man3/getgrent_r.3
>  >> index 81d81a851..76deec370 100644
>  >> --- a/man3/getgrent_r.3
>  >> +++ b/man3/getgrent_r.3
>  >> @@ -186,7 +186,7 @@ main(void)
>  >>
>  >>       setgrent();
>  >>       while (1) {
>  >> -        i = getgrent_r(&grp, buf, BUFLEN, &grpp);
>  >> +        i = getgrent_r(&grp, buf, sizeof(buf), &grpp);
>  >
>  > I'm worried that less attentive people might copy/paste parts of this
>  > in their code, where maybe buf is just a pointer, and expect it to
>  > work. Maybe leaving BUFLEN here is useful as a reminder that they need
>  > to change something to adapt the code?
>  >
>  > Just my 2 cents,
>  > Stefan.
>  >
> That's a very good point.
>
> So we have 3 options and I will propose now a 4th one.  Let's see all
> of them and see which one is better for the man pages.
>
> 1.-     Use the macro everywhere.
>
> pros:
> - It is still valid when the buffer is a pointer and not an array.
> cons:
> - Hardcodes the initializer.  If the array is later initialized with a
>    different value, it may produce a silent bug, or a compilation break.
>
> 2.-     Use sizeof() everywhere, and the macro for the initializer.
>
> pros:
> - It is valid as long as the buffer is an array.
> cons:
> - If the code gets into a function, and the buffer is then a pointer,
>    it will definitively produce a silent bug.
>
> 3.-     Use sizeof() everywhere, and a magic number for the initializer.
>
> The same as 2.
>
> 4.-     Use ARRAY_BYTES() macro
>
> pros:
> - It is always safe and when code changes, it may break compilation, but
>    never a silent bug.
> cons:
> - Add a few lines of code.  Maybe too much complexity for an example.
>    But I'd say that it is the only safe option, and in real code it
>    should probably be used more, so maybe it's good to show a good practice.

If you ask me, I think examples should be simple and easy to
understand, and easy to copy/paste in your code. I'd settle for easy
enough, not perfect or completely foolproof. If you need to look up
obscure gcc features to understand an example, that's not very
helpful. So I'd be more inclined to prefer version 1 above. But let's
see Michael's opinion on this.

Just my 2c,
Stefan.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-15 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-10 21:13 [PATCH 00/24] Many patches Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 01/24] inet_net_pton.3: Use 'PRIx32' rather than "%x" when printing 'uint32_t' values Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  9:31   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  9:39     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  9:59       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-12 21:07     ` David Laight
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 02/24] endian.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11 10:13   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 03/24] timerfd_create.2: Use 'PRIxN' macros when printing C99 fixed-width integer types Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  8:12   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 04/24] eventfd.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  8:13   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11 12:44   ` AW: " Walter Harms
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 05/24] offsetof.3: Use "%zu" rather than "%zd" when printing 'size_t' values Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  8:06   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 06/24] timer_create.2: Cast to 'unsigned long' rathen than 'long' when printing with "%lx" Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:57   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 07/24] request_key.2: Cast to 'unsigned long' rather " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:51   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 08/24] add_key.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:50   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 09/24] clock_getcpuclockid.3: Remove unneeded cast Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:48   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11 10:25     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11 11:05       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 10/24] ioctl_ns.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:24   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  9:13     ` [PATCH v2 10/24] ioctl_ns.2: Cast to 'unsigned long' rather than 'long' when printing with "%lx" Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  9:18       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 11/24] stat.2: Remove unneeded cast Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:25   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  9:16     ` [PATCH v2 11/24] stat.2: Cast to 'unsigned long' rather than 'long' when printing with "%lx" Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  9:19       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  9:34         ` [PATCH v3 11/24] stat.2: wsfix Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  9:36           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 12/24] getgrent_r.3: Use sizeof() to get buffer size (instead of hardcoding macro name) Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:17   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11 12:50   ` AW: " Walter Harms
2020-09-11 19:17     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14  9:24       ` AW: " Walter Harms
2020-09-14  9:51         ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11 14:35   ` Stefan Puiu
2020-09-11 15:28     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11 17:21       ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-15 10:03       ` Stefan Puiu [this message]
2020-09-23 20:35         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-24  9:35           ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-24 10:04             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-24 10:08               ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-24 11:38             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-24 13:09               ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-29 13:38       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-29 13:57         ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 13/24] getpwent_r.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:17   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 14/24] fread.3: Move ARRAY_SIZE logic into macro Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  8:04   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 15/24] unix.7: Use sizeof() to get buffer size (instead of hardcoding macro name) Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  8:05   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  8:07   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 16/24] getpwent_r.3: Declare variables with different types in different lines Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  6:43   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 17/24] get_phys_pages.3: Write 'long' instead of 'long int' Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  6:43   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11 13:07   ` AW: " Walter Harms
2020-09-11 19:24     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 18/24] core.5: Use adequate type Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  8:08   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 19/24] pthread_setname_np.3: ffix Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:58   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  8:32     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11 11:12       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 20/24] loop.4: ffix Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  6:42   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 21/24] aio.7: Use perror() directly Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  6:42   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 22/24] membarrier.2: Note that glibc does not provide a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  6:44   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  9:33   ` Jakub Wilk
2020-09-11  9:35     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11 11:42     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11 12:58   ` AW: " Walter Harms
2020-09-21 14:36     ` G. Branden Robinson
2020-09-24  8:06       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-27  5:46         ` G. Branden Robinson
2020-09-27 20:05           ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-28 12:52             ` G. Branden Robinson
2020-09-28 13:33               ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-28 13:48                 ` G. Branden Robinson
2020-09-28 14:31                 ` David Laight
2020-09-28 14:42                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-29 12:07             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-29 12:06           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 23/24] select_tut.2: Use MAX(a, b) from <sys/param.h> Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  7:54   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  8:46     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11 10:03       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-10 21:13 ` [PATCH 24/24] bpf.2: Add missing headers Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-11  9:12   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11  9:32 ` [PATCH 00/24] Many patches Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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