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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Yunke Cao <yunkec@chromium.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] media: uvcvideo: Disable autosuspend for Insta360 Link
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 18:02:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1298c83f-695a-4356-aa2e-22b0e6629610@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiDSCveK6QRbYM==XN9jggy8DHfS3QJawDWpFLy0jcmmHeduA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:43:09PM +0100, Ricardo Ribalda wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 10:04, Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Laurent
> >
> > We are back to this issue.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 at 03:22, Laurent Pinchart
> > <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ricardo,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the patch.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 05:48:52PM +0100, Ricardo Ribalda wrote:
> > > > When the device suspends, it keeps power-cycling.
> > > >
> > > > The user notices it because the LED constanct oscillate between
> > > > blue (ready) and no LED (off).

> > > > Signed-off-by: Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org>
> > > > ---
> > > > media: uvcvideo: Disable autosuspend for Insta360
> > > >
> > > > The device does not handle properly the USB suspend and makes it barely usable.
> > >
> > > Isn't this best handled with a quirk in the USB core ? Autosuspend is a
> > > device feature, not an interface feature, so if the USB sound driver is
> > > loaded but uvcvideo isn't, the kernel may still attempt to autosuspend
> > > the device.
> > >
> >
> > Seems like USB_QUIRK_NO_AUTOSUSPEND was gone for a long time
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20071115064457.GU19218@kroah.com/
> >
> > under the assumption that autosuspend was off by default and user
> > space should only enable autosuspend on the devices that support it
> > (if I understand it correctly).
> >
> > There are two other quirks still available: USB_QUIRK_RESET_RESUME and
> > USB_QUIRK_DISCONNECT_SUSPEND, but they do not seem to work for this
> > device (Yunke, thanks for looking into this)
> >
> > If we are explicitly enabling autosuspend on the driver, shouldn't we
> > make sure that the device supports it?
> >
> 
> Alan, Greg, any idea about what is the best way to proceed here from a
> USB perspective?

How is autosuspend getting enabled for this device?  It is disabled by 
default for non-hub USB devices.

If the uvcvideo or USB sound driver is enabling autosuspend, the driver 
should be fixed.  Perhaps by adding a quirk bit for this purpose.

If userspace is enabling autosuspend, then any misbehavior isn't the 
kernel's fault.  :-)

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-02 16:48 [PATCH RESEND] media: uvcvideo: Disable autosuspend for Insta360 Link Ricardo Ribalda
2022-12-29  2:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-03-01  9:04   ` Ricardo Ribalda
2023-03-08 22:43     ` Ricardo Ribalda
2023-03-08 23:02       ` Alan Stern [this message]
2023-03-08 23:12         ` Ricardo Ribalda
2024-03-22 12:08           ` Laurent Pinchart

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