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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Keiichi Watanabe <keiichiw@chromium.org>
Cc: "Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	"Dmitry Sepp" <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	"Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>,
	"Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>,
	"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>,
	"David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] [RFC RESEND] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:29:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191120112929.gvsne7ykvcyw65lu@sirius.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD90Vcbr7L2KsyDxPeoKPRt6y_ai8xkJ=J0JCGsW6tGZJGH=0A@mail.gmail.com>

  Hi,

> > > > 3. No support for getting plane requirements from the device (sg vs contig,
> > > > size, stride alignment, plane count).
> > >
> > > There is actually a bigger difference that results in that. Vdec
> > > assumes host-allocated buffers coming from a different device, e.g.
> > > virtio-gpu and the host having the right knowledge to allocate the
> > > buffers correctly. This is related to the fact that it's generally
> > > difficult to convey all the allocation constraints in a generic
> > > manner.
> >
> > Yep, buffer handling is tricky, especially when it comes to decoding
> > directly to gpu buffers and also when supporting playback of
> > drm-protected streams where the guest might not be allowed to access
> > the stream data.

> Also, if we decide to have a buffer sharing device as Gerd suggested
> in a different thread,
> we'll get less overlaps between video codec feature and camera feature.
> e.g. VIRTIO_VIDEO_T_RESOURCE_* would be simplified. (or removed?)

Disclaimer: Havn't found the time yet to go over both virtio-video and
virtio-vdec in detail.

> As Tomasz said, I think virtio-vdec can be modified to support
> encoding as well without big changes.  I'm happy to update our
> protocol and driver implementation to support encoding if needed.

I think it makes sense to have a rough plan first ;)
Is there a virtio-video implementation too?

When it comes to buffer handling:  I don't like that virtio-vdec depends
on virtio-gpu for buffer handling.  Allowing sharing buffers between
virtio-vdec and virtio-gpu (and possibly other devices) makes sense as
an optional extension.  But IMO the encoder/decoder device should be
able to operate as stand-alone device.

cheers,
  Gerd


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-20 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-05 19:19 [RFC RESEND] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification Dmitry Sepp
2019-11-07  9:56 ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 13:09   ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-11-08  7:49     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-08  7:58       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-08  9:51       ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-11-08  7:50     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-08  9:05       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-08  9:28         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-11-20 11:29           ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2019-11-21 10:54             ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-04  7:48               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-04  9:16                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-04 19:11                   ` Enrico Granata
2019-12-05  8:21                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-06  7:32                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-06 12:30                         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-06 15:50                           ` Enrico Granata
2019-12-09 13:43                             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-09 10:46                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-09 11:38                             ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-09 13:17                               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-09 14:19                   ` Dmitry Sepp
     [not found]                     ` <CAPR809t2X3eEZj14Y-0CdnmzGZFhWKt2vwFSZBrEZbChQpmU_w@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-10 13:16                       ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-12  5:39                         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-12 10:34                           ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-13 14:20                             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-13 16:31                               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 14:24                                 ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-20 15:01                                   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-13 14:58                     ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-12-16  8:09                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-16 10:32                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-17 13:15                       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-17 13:39                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-17 14:09                           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-17 16:13                             ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-18  6:43                               ` Gerd Hoffmann

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