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From: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>
To: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.org>
Cc: Stefan Wahren <wahrenst@gmx.net>, Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:BROADCOM BCM2835 ARM ARCHITECTURE" 
	<linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	LMML <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Ensure H264 header bytes get a sensible timestamp
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:00:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54088ebc2fcbcc3a202ab0fd4d32f9ad8c1e9b82.camel@ndufresne.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAoAYcOvnF55U0kPMFE4cOd=nUqjoidirbGP6AWN=5Rqp0RhbQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Le vendredi 28 juin 2019 à 11:10 +0100, Dave Stevenson a écrit :
> Hi Nicolas
> 
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 20:55, Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca> wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > Le jeudi 27 juin 2019 à 20:55 +0200, Stefan Wahren a écrit :
> > > From: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.org>
> > > 
> > > H264 header come from VC with 0 timestamps, which means they get a
> > > strange timestamp when processed with VC/kernel start times,
> > > particularly if used with the inline header option.
> > > Remember the last frame timestamp and use that if set, or otherwise
> > > use the kernel start time.
> > 
> > Normally H264 headers are considered to be part of the following frame.
> > Giving it the timestamp of the previous frame will likely confuse some
> > userspace and cause an off-by-one in timestamp. I understand this is a
> > workaround, but am wondering if this can be improved.
> 
> Sorry, slight ambiguity in how I'm reading your comment.
> 
> Are you saying that the header bytes want to be in the same buffer as
> the following frame?
> I thought this had also been discussed in the V4L2 stateful codec API
> threads along with how many encoded frames were allowed in a single
> V4L2 buffer. I certainly hadn't seen a statement about the header
> bytes being combined with the next frame.
> If the behaviour required by V4L2 is that header bytes and following
> frame are in the same buffer, then that is relatively easy to achieve
> in the firmware. This workaround can remain for older firmware as it
> will never trigger if the firmware has combined the frames.

The frame alignment is a requirement specific to the stateful codec
API. Stateful codec must interpret _H264 format as being one full frame
per buffer (1 AU in progressive, and 1 to 2 AU in interlaced), the
first frame should include SPS/PPS and any other prefix NALs. You may
follow this rule in your capture driver if you want to make it possible
to zero-copy the encoded frames from the capture to the decoder.
Though, userspace will still have to parse as there is no indication
for capture devices of the H264 alignment being used (that imply 1
frame latency). Boris is working on a control for stateless CODEC to
control if we are running in full-frame or per slices. I do hope this
control will be extended later to allow cameras and decoders to signal
their alignment, or simply to allow enabling low-latency modes
supported by CODA and ZynMP firmwares.

> 
> Or are you saying that the header bytes remain in their own buffer,
> but the timestamp wants to be the same as the next frame? That is
> harder to achieve in the firmware, but could probably be done in the
> kernel driver by holding on to the header bytes frame until the next
> buffer had been received, at which point the timestamp can be copied
> across. Possible, but just needs slightly careful handling to ensure
> we don't lose buffers accidentally.

So this isn't specified by V4L2 itself. So instead I rely on H264 and
MPEG TS specification to advance this. This is also the interpretation
we have of timestamp in GStreamer (ffmpeg uses out-of-band headers with
full frame AVC, so this does not apply).

So H264 AUD, SPS, PPS, SEI and other prefix NAL are considered to be
the start of a frame. With this interpretation in mind, accumulating
them is considered zero-latency. This basically means that if they are
to have a timestamp, they would share that timestamp with all the
slices of the same frame. In GStreamer, we have the notion of no
timestamp, so in such a case we'd leave the timestamp empty and our
parsers would pick the first valid timestamp that formed the full frame
as being the frame timestamp (it's a bit buggier then that, but that's
what it's suppose to do).

On top of that, if you don't have any meaningful alignment in your H264
stream, the MPEG TS format states that the timestamp of a buffer should
be the timestamp of the first NAL starting within this buffer, or the
timestamp of the current NAL if there is not NAL start.

By respecting these standards you ensure that latency aware application
can work with your driver without causing delays, or worst, having to
deal with artificially late frames.

I hope this clarify and helps understand my request for "unhacking" the
headers timestamps. I had assumed the timestamp came from the driver
(instead of from the firmware), sorry if that caused confusion. If
merging full frames is easier, I think I would opt for that as it's
beneficial to performance when combined with other full frame APIs.

Nicolas

> 
>   Dave
> 
> > > Link: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1836
> > > Signed-off-by: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.org>
> > > ---
> > >  .../staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.c  | 14 ++++++++++++--
> > >  .../staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.h  |  2 ++
> > >  2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.c b/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.c
> > > index dce6e6d..0c04815 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.c
> > > @@ -359,7 +359,9 @@ static void buffer_cb(struct vchiq_mmal_instance *instance,
> > >               }
> > >       } else {
> > >               if (dev->capture.frame_count) {
> > > -                     if (dev->capture.vc_start_timestamp != -1 && pts) {
> > > +                     if (dev->capture.vc_start_timestamp != -1) {
> > > +                             buf->vb.vb2_buf.timestamp = ktime_get_ns();
> > > +                     } else if (pts) {
> > >                               ktime_t timestamp;
> > >                               s64 runtime_us = pts -
> > >                                   dev->capture.vc_start_timestamp;
> > > @@ -372,8 +374,15 @@ static void buffer_cb(struct vchiq_mmal_instance *instance,
> > >                                        ktime_to_ns(timestamp));
> > >                               buf->vb.vb2_buf.timestamp = ktime_to_ns(timestamp);
> > >                       } else {
> > > -                             buf->vb.vb2_buf.timestamp = ktime_get_ns();
> > > +                             if (dev->capture.last_timestamp) {
> > > +                                     buf->vb.vb2_buf.timestamp =
> > > +                                             dev->capture.last_timestamp;
> > > +                             } else {
> > > +                                     buf->vb.vb2_buf.timestamp =
> > > +                                             ktime_to_ns(dev->capture.kernel_start_ts);
> > > +                             }
> > >                       }
> > > +                     dev->capture.last_timestamp = buf->vb.vb2_buf.timestamp;
> > > 
> > >                       vb2_set_plane_payload(&buf->vb.vb2_buf, 0, length);
> > >                       vb2_buffer_done(&buf->vb.vb2_buf, VB2_BUF_STATE_DONE);
> > > @@ -541,6 +550,7 @@ static int start_streaming(struct vb2_queue *vq, unsigned int count)
> > >                        dev->capture.vc_start_timestamp, parameter_size);
> > > 
> > >       dev->capture.kernel_start_ts = ktime_get();
> > > +     dev->capture.last_timestamp = 0;
> > > 
> > >       /* enable the camera port */
> > >       dev->capture.port->cb_ctx = dev;
> > > diff --git a/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.h b/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.h
> > > index 2b5679e..09273b0 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.h
> > > +++ b/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-camera/bcm2835-camera.h
> > > @@ -90,6 +90,8 @@ struct bm2835_mmal_dev {
> > >               s64         vc_start_timestamp;
> > >               /* Kernel start timestamp for streaming */
> > >               ktime_t kernel_start_ts;
> > > +             /* Timestamp of last frame */
> > > +             u64             last_timestamp;
> > > 
> > >               struct vchiq_mmal_port  *port; /* port being used for capture */
> > >               /* camera port being used for capture */
> > > --
> > > 2.7.4
> > > 

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-28 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-27 18:55 [PATCH 00/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Improvements Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:55 ` [PATCH 01/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Ensure H264 header bytes get a sensible timestamp Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 19:55   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-06-28 10:10     ` Dave Stevenson
2019-06-28 14:00       ` Nicolas Dufresne [this message]
2019-06-28 14:08         ` Hans Verkuil
2019-06-28 14:35           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-06-28  7:28   ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-27 18:55 ` [PATCH 02/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Check the error for REPEAT_SEQ_HEADER Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 03/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Replace spinlock protecting context_map with mutex Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 04/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Do not bulk receive from service thread Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 05/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Correctly denote key frames in encoded data Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 06/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Return early on errors Stefan Wahren
2019-06-28  7:38   ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 07/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Remove dead email addresses Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 08/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Fix comment style violations Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 09/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Fix spacing around operators Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 10/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Reduce length of enum names Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 11/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Fix multiple line dereference errors Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 12/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Fix brace style issues Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 13/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Fix missing lines between items Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 14/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Fix open parenthesis alignment Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 15/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Ensure all buffers are returned on disable Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 16/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Remove check of the number of buffers supplied Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 17/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Handle empty EOS buffers whilst streaming Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 18/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Set sequence number correctly Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 18:56 ` [PATCH 19/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Ensure timestamps never go backwards Stefan Wahren
2019-06-27 20:01   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-06-28  8:06 ` [PATCH 00/31] staging: bcm2835-camera: Improvements Hans Verkuil
2019-06-28 10:39   ` Dave Stevenson
2019-06-28 10:56     ` Hans Verkuil
2019-06-28 16:57   ` Stefan Wahren
2019-06-28 17:29     ` Dave Stevenson
2019-06-29 10:27       ` Stefan Wahren
2019-06-28 13:13 ` Hans Verkuil
2019-06-28 13:18   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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