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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
To: Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org>,
	Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [ANN] Topics for a media summit in Lyon in October
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:10:47 +0200
Message-ID: <8f49d24c-9074-a988-2ba4-23f4cd2e6fcb@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <010ba9ce-bac9-6f0c-f128-4f163a7d8ea7@xs4all.nl>

On 8/16/19 10:06 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Rather then discussing topics for a meeting under the subject 'Lisbon'
> let's start a new thread referring to the right place :-)
> 
> I will try to organize a room, either during the ELCE or (if that doesn't
> work) perhaps on the Thursday afterwards. If that's going to be a problem
> for someone, please let me know.
> 
> I do need to know how many people I can expect. I have the following
> confirmed attendees (and please reply if you are not listed!):
> 
> Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@chromium.org>
> Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
> Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
> Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
> Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
> 
> I know there were more who mentioned on irc that they would attend,
> but it is easier to keep track if I have it in an email.
> 
> Topics posted under the previous thread:
> 
> Tomasz:
> 
> I would want to discuss various v4l2_buffer improvements, e.g.
> - DMA-buf import with plane offsets,
> - unifying the buffer structs for M and non-M formats,
> - ability to import different FDs with offsets for non-M formats if the
> layout matches driver expectations, etc.
> 
> Besides that, I would be interested in the general idea on handling
> complex cameras in the Linux kernel in spite of the remaining V4L2
> limitations, e.g.
> - combinatorial explosion of /dev/video nodes,
> - significant ioctl overhead,
> - huge amount of historical legacy making the driver and userspace
> implementations overly difficult and prone to repetitive mistakes,
> - the above also limiting the flexibility of the API - formats, frame
> rates, etc. set using distinct APIs, not covered by Request API, with
> non-failure "negotiation hell", etc.
> - lack of fences, etc.

Tomasz, I am not sure if this is suitable for a media summit: my feeling
is that this is much more suitable for a three day brainstorming session.

My 'roadmap' was to get the codec support sorted first, then start working
on this.

Regards,

	Hans

> 
> Jacopo:
> 
> Apart from discussing libcamera and hope we could kickstart a review of
> its API, I would like to re-start discussing multiplexed stream support,
> but that would require Sakari to be there, something I'm not certain
> about. Sakari?
> 
> Alexandre:
> 
> If Collabora/Bootlin is there, I'd certainly want to discuss stateless
> codecs, in particular m2m codec helpers and finalize the specification
> in general.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 	Hans
> 


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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-16  8:06 Hans Verkuil
2019-08-16  8:10 ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2019-08-16  8:22   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-08-16  8:31     ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-16  9:37 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-08-19  7:44 ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-19 14:43   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2019-08-19 15:04     ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-19 15:24       ` Eugen.Hristev
2019-08-19 15:51         ` Laurent Pinchart

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