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From: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vikash Garodia <vgarodia@codeaurora.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	Malathi Gottam <mgottam@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] venus: dec: make decoder compliant with stateful codec API
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 17:18:39 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAFQd5CMpQ4ODyeBPnOv4w9ktqPsiqJtSkpRhAx+XgQ=Lz9crQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9b11ba0-adca-f974-67a5-a0fe54689bba@xs4all.nl>

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 4:39 PM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> On 5/27/19 5:51 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:27 PM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/21/19 11:09 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> >>> Hi Stan,
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:47 PM Stanimir Varbanov
> >>> <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Tomasz,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 4/24/19 3:39 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:15 PM Stanimir Varbanov
> >>>>> <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Hans,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/15/19 3:44 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Stanimir,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I never paid much attention to this patch series since others were busy
> >>>>>>> discussing it and I had a lot of other things on my plate, but then I heard
> >>>>>>> that this patch made G_FMT blocking.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> OK, another option could be to block REQBUF(CAPTURE) until event from hw
> >>>>>> is received that the stream is parsed and the resolution is correctly
> >>>>>> set by application. Just to note that I'd think to this like a temporal
> >>>>>> solution until gstreamer implements v4l events.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is that looks good to you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmm, I thought we concluded that gstreamer sets the width and height
> >>>>> in OUTPUT queue before querying the CAPTURE queue and so making the
> >>>>> driver calculate the CAPTURE format based on what's set on OUTPUT
> >>>>> would work fine. Did I miss something?
> >>>>
> >>>> Nobody is miss something.
> >>>>
> >>>> First some background about how Venus implements stateful codec API.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Venus firmware can generate two events "sufficient" and
> >>>> "insufficient" buffer requirements (this includes decoder output buffer
> >>>> size and internal/scratch buffer sizes). Presently I always set minimum
> >>>> possible decoder resolution no matter what the user said, and by that
> >>>> way I'm sure that "insufficient" event will always be triggered by the
> >>>> firmware (the other reason to take this path is because this is the
> >>>> least-common-divider for all supported Venus hw/fw versions thus common
> >>>> code in the driver). The reconfiguration (during codec Initialization
> >>>> sequence) is made from STREAMON(CAPTURE) context. Now, to make that
> >>>> re-configuration happen I need to wait for "insufficient" event from
> >>>> firmware in order to know the real coded resolution.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the case of gstreamer where v4l2_events support is missing I have to
> >>>> block (wait for firmware event) REQBUF(CAPTURE) (vb2::queue_setup) or
> >>>> STREAMON(CAPTURE) (vb2::start_streaming).
> >>>>
> >>>> I tried to set the coded resolution to the firmware as-is it set by
> >>>> gstreamer but then I cannot receive the "sufficient" event for VP8 and
> >>>> VP9 codecs. So I return back to the solution with minimum resolution above.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm open for suggestions.
> >>>
> >>> I think you could still keep setting the minimum size and wait for the
> >>> "insufficient" event. At the same time, you could speculatively
> >>> advertise the expected "sufficient" size on the CAPTURE queue before
> >>> the hardware signals those. Even if you mispredict them, you'll get
> >>> the event, update the CAPTURE resolution and send the source change
> >>> event to the application, which would then give you the correct
> >>> buffers. Would that work for you?
> >>
> >> As I understand it this still would require event support, which gstreamer
> >> doesn't have.
> >
> > I don't think it matches what I remember from the earlier discussion.
> > As long as Gstreamer sets the visible resolution (from the container
> > AFAIR) on OUTPUT, the driver would adjust it to something that is
> > expected to be the right framebuffer resolution and so Gstreamer would
> > be able to continue. Of course if the expected value doesn't match, it
> > wouldn't work, but it's the same as currently for Coda AFAICT.
> >
> >>
> >> I think it is OK to have REQBUFS sleep in this case. However, I would only
> >
> > Why REQBUFS? While that could possibly allow us to allocate the right
> > buffers, Gstreamer wouldn't be able to know the right format, because
> > it would query it before REQBUFS, wouldn't it?
>
> Oops, you are right. It's got to be in G_FMT(CAPTURE), but *only* if
> nobody subscribed to the SOURCE_CHANGE event.
>
> >
> > For this reason, s5p-mfc makes G_FMT(CAPTURE) blocking and if we
> > decide to forcefully keep the compatibility, even with in drivers, we
> > should probably do the same here.
> >
> >> enable this behavior if the application didn't subscribe to the SOURCE_CHANGE
> >> event. That's easy enough to check in the driver. And that means that if the
> >> application is well written, then the driver will behave in a completely
> >> standard way that the compliance test can check.
> >
> > I guess one could have some helpers for this. They would listen to the
> > source change events internally and block / wake-up appropriate ioctls
> > whenever necessary.
>
> I really do not want this for new drivers. gstreamer should be fixed.
> A blocking G_FMT is just plain bad. Only those drivers that do this, can
> still block if nobody subscribed to EVENT_SOURCE_CHANGE.

Yeah and that's why I just suggested to mimic coda, which doesn't
block, but apparently gstreamer still works with it.

>
> > Another question: If we intend this to be implemented in new drivers
> > too, should it be documented in the spec?
>
> We most certainly do NOT want to implement this in new drivers.
>

Makes sense.

When venus was merged initially, did it already have a blocking G_FMT?

Best regards,
Tomasz

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-27  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-17 16:19 [PATCH 00/10] Venus stateful Codec API Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-17 16:19 ` [PATCH 01/10] venus: hfi_cmds: add more not-implemented properties Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 02/10] venus: helpers: fix dynamic buffer mode for v4 Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 03/10] venus: helpers: export few helper functions Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-24  8:43   ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-24  8:48     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 04/10] venus: hfi: add type argument to hfi flush function Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 05/10] venus: hfi: export few HFI functions Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 06/10] venus: hfi: return an error if session_init is already called Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 07/10] venus: helpers: add three more helper functions Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-24  8:43   ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-24  8:54     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-25  5:47       ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 08/10] venus: vdec_ctrls: get real minimum buffers for capture Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-24  8:43   ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-24  9:59     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 09/10] venus: vdec: allow bigger sizeimage set by clients Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-24  8:43   ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-24 10:05     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-25  5:36       ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-17 16:20 ` [PATCH 10/10] venus: dec: make decoder compliant with stateful codec API Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-21 11:20   ` mgottam
2019-01-21 11:29     ` mgottam
2019-01-24 10:24     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-24  8:44   ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-24 12:34     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-25  5:44       ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-25  7:59   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-25 10:25     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-28  7:38       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-28 16:28         ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-29  8:24           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-30  3:18         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-30  3:38           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-30  4:21             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-30  6:17               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-30 15:32                 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-31 12:42                   ` Philipp Zabel
2019-01-31 13:34                     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-31 15:18                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-02-05  6:26                         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-02-05  9:00                           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-02-05  9:31                             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-02-05 10:35                               ` Hans Verkuil
2019-02-07  7:33                                 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-02-14  2:43                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-02-14 16:19                                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-04-09  9:59                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-04-09 16:30                                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-04-10  2:32                                       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-02-15 13:44   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-02-15 16:27     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-02-15 16:40       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-04-24 12:15     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-04-24 12:39       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-05-20 14:47         ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-05-21  9:09           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-05-21 12:27             ` Hans Verkuil
2019-05-27  3:51               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-05-27  7:39                 ` Hans Verkuil
2019-05-27  8:18                   ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2019-05-31  8:01                     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-05-31 13:53                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-06-03  7:25                       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-06-03  7:30                         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-24  8:43 ` [PATCH 00/10] Venus stateful Codec API Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-24 10:12   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-25  5:34     ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-25 10:35       ` Stanimir Varbanov
2019-01-28  4:16         ` Alexandre Courbot
2019-01-28  4:30           ` Tomasz Figa

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